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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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uh yeah man how you doing how you doing

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today is tuesday

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tuesday july 26

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tonight nick redfearn that's right let's

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do this

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer and on x networks

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing

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you know i'm in a great mood because

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tonight we have very special guest nick

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redfearn is joining us

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he is back we're gonna have a full night

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of our

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strange world

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that's right

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nick has written over 30 books

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and all on high strangeness and

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and tonight we're going to take a walk

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through

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all of it that's what we are going to do

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tonight i always love it when nick is on

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the show he's one of my favorite guests

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and uh all of my guests are my favorite

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guests

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all right kind of talked about that last

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night in the ama jimmy what's your

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favorite interview

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of all time all of them

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very rarely do we have a

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a show that's a clunker and they just

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don't happen anymore kind of had one or

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two in the past

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so far gone and i have uh

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defragged my hard drive and and those

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shows don't even

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exist they they don't they don't they do

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they're gone they're gone and they they

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won't be found in some kind of metadata

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in my brain they're just gone

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well that's tonight nick redfern is here

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tomorrow night nick pope is here

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and yeah i guess it's the week of the

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two nicks so tomorrow night nick pope is

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here we're going to be talking about

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government ufo programs and thursday

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night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long i want to

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thank everybody uh last night

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that uh sent in your questions for the

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ama it was uh

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all the amas are are pretty fun to do

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but last night was that was a notch

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above that was a whole lot of fun

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and then uh today i'm poking around

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goofing around

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and uh on twitter then i saw a whole

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list of questions in in twitter that i

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didn't see last night

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and uh and i was like oh man i told

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everybody hashtag f2b hashtag f2bq so i

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can see them

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and then they you know posted all those

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questions in in in the original post i

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i was just following

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my own instructions so there you go but

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that was a great show last night thank

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you to everybody uh that hung out with

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us amas are the best those are

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the absolute best now

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next month tuesday night august 16th i

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will be at u pars

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right here in los angeles california in

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studio city not tech it's los angeles

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county it's like five miles from l.a

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you're technically here in beverly hills

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studio city right there they call it

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studio city because that's where the

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pretty pretty pretty creative i would

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think studio city california

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uparsla.org and get your tickets and

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information if you're going to be in los

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angeles if you live in los angeles if

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you're a fader not visiting los angeles

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it's going to sell out it's going to be

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so if you want to go you need to go to

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upars la right now get your rsvp in i

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don't know how uh steve marillo handles

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things over there so just visit new

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parts la you will figure out

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what to do all right and then coming up

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i am busy uh for the rest of the year

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just gonna let everybody know that uh

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well coming up the weekend of september

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16th i'm in joshua tree california for a

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private sky watch i told everybody how

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you can get in on that

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all you got to do is mint some nfts 10

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of them you go to forbidden

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that's with a four

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and get yourself your black card and and

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then you will get your invitation to

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come out uh to that

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very limited uh with uh but it's gonna

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be a really cool event we're also going

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to go to giant rock so we're going to

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have two nights of sky watching and that

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is the weekend of september 16th then of

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course in october i will be in egypt

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with 80 friends and billy carson

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um in between all of this i've got some

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that are booked up i'm filming uh next

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uh for a new film i will make the

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announcement on that uh here very soon

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it's not my film i'm just appearing in

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the film but it's a great film

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and uh my scenes are being shot next

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week so i've got that going on and then

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um i am filming uh my new tv show and

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uh the schedule for that came in this

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it's uh it's absolute craziness from

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here on out

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i was i

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today after a flurry of phone calls

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and paperwork and stuff

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uh i said out loud to myself

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the madness begins

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and it does oh um i talked to you guys

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about uh the cruise

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uh going to mexico that is in april i

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said it was a march it is april

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and uh i got uh some of the stuff today

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i will post it tomorrow i'm waiting for

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a couple of more graphics uh to come in

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but i got some stuff today it's in april

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um and if you would like uh to do that

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just kind of block out uh i think it's

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april 7th through the 14th

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um i'll have that up tomorrow

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and then of course i can't believe it

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you know we're in august we're going

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into september then october

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and then the new

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conference season starts and we've got

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conscious life expo coming up

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got a huge announcement uh for uh this

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big event that is going down in 2023

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and uh i'll be making that announcement

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uh about this time next week but uh very

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busy i'm just glad

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they're very happy that

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life is is getting back on track

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after nearly a two-year vacation

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everybody went through big changes i

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went through big changes myself

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and uh it's time to get focused now i

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had said a couple of years ago um that

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this pandemic's gonna get over uh it

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it's going to end it's it it's it is

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going to end one day may not seem like

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that right now but i told everybody get

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ready

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because you want to get on the freeway

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and go straight over to the fast lane

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and and you want to be ready

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to go

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when things start again and they are

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and it's it's crazy like i said today to

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myself out loud

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the madness begins

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so here we go all right get your free

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membership to the nx network right now i

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want you to go to

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thenxnetwork.com and while you are over

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there you'll get the monthly newsletter

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you get blog access you're going to get

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event notices a free digital copy of the

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quarterly magazine

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discounts to their events and right now

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they have a contest going so i want you

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to go over to thenxnetwork.com

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uh first the grand prize is hotel and

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ticket to their event in cape girardeau

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and they have a bunch of other uh

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giveaways that they're going to be doing

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ticket packages and stuff like that and

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go and get signed up and get everything

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going over at the nextnetwork.com

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and maybe you'll win they're going to do

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a drawing live i think it's going to be

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on youtube live on youtube and maybe

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they'll pull your name out of the hat so

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head over to the

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nextnetwork.com right now

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okay and i mentioned this last night on

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the show before we get started tonight

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eden pure who absolutely loves the fader

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knots and loves fade to black

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um their thunderstorm

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is now the three

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pack special

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three pack you save 200

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and you get free shipping

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so get three you need three of these see

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mine's running right now see it's lit up

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ah

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it's running in the bunker you can't

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hear it

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and kills viruses

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purifies the air

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it's the stink out of your room all of

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that maybe you got a cat box right you

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need

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what do you do when you have company

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come over to the house and you've got a

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litter box

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right well you don't have to worry about

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it if you get the thunderstorm

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all right i don't have to worry about

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the sweat in my home gym that's all i'm

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concerned about right now

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and it's gone

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plug it in your car it's usb you can

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plug it in the wall it's small and it

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works great ask any of the fader knots

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that i've got hey is the thunderstorm

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all that is jimmy just being a hype man

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i can't hype this product enough

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so click on the link below the promo

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code is fader 3

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thunderstorm three pack special the

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links for everything all of our sponsors

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are in the description box below they're

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over at

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jimmychurchradio.com you can follow me

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on twitter at j church radio follow me

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on instagram

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i posted on insta instagram today at

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jimmychurchradio on instagram

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f2b on twitter is the sandbox

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we don't bite come and hang out with us

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over on twitter look twitter is live in

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front of me right now let's see lord

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nelson just posted 59 seconds ago

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phillip daniels just posted right olivia

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is here tonight king is here tonight

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cassandra's here tonight janine

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and uh stephen

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ufo tweets

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uh ufo tweet says hey jimmy is there

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such a thing as

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as a budget night vision i haven't

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messed around with budget night vision

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i have one color it's called the the

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scion the orion

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i have that and it records um in its

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color i have it it's like a backup uh

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but i use the gen 3 and uh so the gen 3s

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you can poke around online and you can

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get a decent pair of gen 3s for

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uh fifteen hundred dollars now if that's

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a lot of money gen threes used to be

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three grand just to give you an idea but

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uh

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i have i haven't done this yet

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all right i gotta get to the news and

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other stuff but let me just say this

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i go to amazon

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search night vision goggles i've done

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this a few times and i did it a couple

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of weeks ago and i was going to buy a

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couple of pair there

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there's some inexpensive stuff there

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inexpensive enough

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to where you're not going to freak out

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if they're not what you expect

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and i was going to do that just to test

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them out and and see

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uh what is going on

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so

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plug in night vision goggles go to

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amazon and and see what you can find i i

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can't recommend anything because i

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haven't checked it out

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all right but that's from ufo tweets

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that's what's happening over in the

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sandbox right now

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f2b on twitter

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let's get to the breaking news

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crazy news day today and if you follow

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my social media

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you saw some of the announcements

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uh that was just just a crazy news day

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and china the remnants of that

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massive chinese rocket that delivered a

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new module to china's space station on

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monday

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are expected to fall to earth early next

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week according to the u.s space command

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which is tracking the rocket's

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trajectory the

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23-ton long march 5b rocket which

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carried the wenchian laboratory module

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took off from hainan island at 2 22 p.m

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local time sunday july 24th and the

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module successfully docked with china's

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orbital outpost

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it's job completed the rock has gone

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into an uncontrolled descent towards

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earth's atmosphere and it's not clear

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where it will land the uncontrolled

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descent marks the third time that the

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country has been accused of not properly

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handling

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space debris from its rocket stage i

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remember last year i was tracking that

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with everybody else i was watching the

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descent to see

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where it was coming down i had all of

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the satellite tracking

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software and i was watching it by the

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second it was crazy and i guess i'm

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about to do it again on monday

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all right here we go

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new footage now i posted this today you

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can go over to my facebook and i think i

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did it on twitter too as well

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new footage

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showing a giant

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strange looking seven foot long

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tentacled

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sea creature

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floating in the depths of the pacific

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ocean has left researchers questioning

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if they have discovered a new species

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a team of scientists spotted the strange

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animal while on board the ev nautilus a

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research vessel used by the ocean

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exploration trust a non-profit

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organization conducting deep sea

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research

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in a recently released video the

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expedition researchers watched the

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bizarre creature come into focus

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moments later the scientists spied

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another of the oddball creatures nearby

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though they were unable to record video

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of the second

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individual

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crazy

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e.t i'm telling you right now i had a

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straight out of the movie alien

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all right scientists also uh i did a lot

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of water stuff today

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and i'm sure you guys saw it

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scientists exploring a submerged

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mountain range in the mid-atlantic

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stumbled onto something that they can't

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explain

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an organized series of holes punched in

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the floor of the atlantic ocean at a

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depth of 1.7 miles that's

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8976 feet below the surface in a

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perfectly straight line the rectangles

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it's crazy i posted the images on

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facebook and twitter for you to check

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out they are amazing and i want your

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comments what do you think that is

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a mile and a half down

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crazy

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well it happened today

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a

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included

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the jacket was sold to an unnamed buyer

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bidding by phone

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million dollars

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now no word and i tried to find out did

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buzz own this did buzz put this up for

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auction is buzz getting the 2.2 million

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or did somebody else have the jacket and

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put it up for auction and did did buzz

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get a

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cut

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it says e aldrin right there

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on the jack it's just a jacket like a

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jacket that you wear well it went to the

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moon you know i guess you

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you know you want to you want a

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windbreaker

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when you're on the lunar module it it

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makes sense right right it's nice too

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nice looking jacket let's get this show

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cracking on this day in history

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1984

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ed gaine

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the serial killer infamous for skinning

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human corpses

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dies of complications from cancer in a

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wisconsin prison at the age of 77.

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psycho

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texas chainsaw massacre and silence of

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the lambs

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were based on gaines crimes

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a dude was

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hyenas

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sick

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fader fact

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all right here you go

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here you go

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if you started a pyramid scheme

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with

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five people

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brought in and recruited five more

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people

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by the 15th tier

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you would have exceeded

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the entire population

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and that is your fader fact

477
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:08,720
yeah i saw this documentary uh i can't

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remember specifically

479
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,919
what it was on uh but

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it involved a

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uh a pyramid scheme with some ladies

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in a in in this town in the midwest

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and inside of like a month

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right it's a crazy series too

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inside of a the entire town

486
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it was like

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everybody was in on it judges cops

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school teachers

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the clergy

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everybody was in on it it was like oh

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man

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you're gonna have to arrest the entire

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town

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it was nuts man it was nuts and that's

495
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that's what's crazy about a pyramid

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00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:56,240
scheme

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00:25:05,190 --> 00:24:58,720
if uh if they take off they take off

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you and five friends

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take over the world

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in 15 days

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buy my video and i can show you how

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yeah

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all right tonight very special guest

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00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,360
nick redfern is joining us we're going

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to be talking about our strange world

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and it is stranger than you think

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tomorrow night nick pope is here we're

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going to be talking about

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government ufo programs and then

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thursday

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long all right

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river moon coffee

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rivermoonwellness.com click on the link

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below

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french press you've got to have a french

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press you need um you need a a a pour

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over

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00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,360
it and you put the cone paper cone thing

520
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in it don't do that

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just get a metal one

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and then one day you do the pour over

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the next day you do the french press and

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then

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if you're just in a crazy whacked out

526
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,840
mood you fire up your mr coffee machine

527
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,480
but do whole bean get a grinder

528
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,080
get a grinder i've done everything that

529
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i can to help you guys out i've posted

530
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,240
pictures of my grinder i've posted

531
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pictures of

532
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,000
my coffee set up you guys can see

533
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:35,840
everything i've got three different

534
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:38,320
types of coffee in front of me i rotate

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through

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right i don't do the same coffee every

537
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single day sometimes i do but i mix it

538
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up i mix it up except for show time when

539
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it's show time

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it's fade to black blend

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oh man

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our strange world

543
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,840
check this out have you thought

544
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:11,279
much

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00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,279
about

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00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:15,679
cern

547
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:18,840
or the large hadron

548
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,470
dark matter

549
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:28,880
black holes

550
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,430
the three scariest things in the

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universe

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00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,799
the three scariest things in the

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universe that we know absolutely nothing

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00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,399
about

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00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,799
are being created

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00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,840
or trying to be

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created right now

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00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:52,080
as i speak to you

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right now

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now

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it's not

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00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:04,559
things

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right it's it's it's not about those

564
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for me it's the other stuff

565
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,159
that happens

566
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,399
when you just go slamming stuff together

567
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:16,559
at the speed of light just to see it

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because that's what they're doing

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it started up in

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september

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00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:32,000
2008 right and we've had nothing but

572
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,679
high strangeness ever since

573
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they did it in collaboration with over

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10 000 scientists and hundreds of

575
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universities and laboratories

576
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as well as more than 100 countries

577
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:49,600
it lies in a tunnel

578
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:53,159
17 miles in circumference and

579
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574 feet beneath the france switzerland

580
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:57,840
border

581
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and nobody knows what's going on

582
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,630
saying out loud you know what let's

583
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let's try to

584
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create a black hole we don't know

585
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:18,080
anything about black holes

586
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,799
well

587
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:20,720
let's let's see if we can

588
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,399
create one don't they suck in everything

589
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,200
forever around it

590
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and spit it out spaghettified out of the

591
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back yeah so let's

592
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you know let's make small ones

593
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,200
that sounds like a really good idea

594
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:39,039
antimatter

595
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,000
comes in contact with actual matter

596
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,760
like you

597
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this coffee cup

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00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:50,880
matter

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boom

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like

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bada boom

602
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a big one

603
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and they've actually created

604
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antimatter at the lhc

605
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now wait a minute what do they do with

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it

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in a magnetic chamber

608
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:20,960
so it sits and doesn't touch anything

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00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,549
they don't know

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but they're just doing it

611
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dark matter time travel

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00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,399
right this is what they're trying to and

613
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they don't know they are flipping the

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switch

615
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:41,120
creating voltages of the equivalent to

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the sun

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accelerating these particles

618
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and ramming them into each other just to

619
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see what would happen now have they

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00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,559
opened up portals to other dimensions

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have they let entities in

622
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,240
uh have have these portals open and

623
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and they didn't close them fast enough

624
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,080
i'm merely making suggestions here

625
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:06,640
but the actual results of this they

626
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,480
don't know what's going to happen until

627
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,159
after it's done

628
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:11,760
i can only say

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00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:14,480
that since 2008 this has been a

630
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,080
different planet

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and that's the lhc

632
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:25,519
i'm going to do a program on the lhc

633
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:26,480
and

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i

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best books

636
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i'm just saying

637
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,080
is that a coincidence

638
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,240
i don't think that it is and tonight

639
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nick is with us i am going to take a

640
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quick break i want you to stay right

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there this is fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church on the game changer

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and on x networks

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this is fade to black tonight nick

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redfearn tomorrow night nick pope

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thursday night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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stay right there i'll be right back

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after this short break with our guest

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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is not

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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jimmy church radio

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight nick redfearn

765
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,720
is with us i guess this week it's the

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week of the two nicks

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tonight nick redfern tomorrow night nick

768
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pope is with us

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tonight we're going to discuss our

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strange world we're going to try to hit

771
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everything tonight ufos time travel

772
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,079
uh chupacabra bigfoot conspiracies ghost

773
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,160
lost history

774
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,720
mothman men in black

775
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:40,160
right

776
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:41,680
bigfoot

777
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,000
nick has written about all of it because

778
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,000
he works full-time as an author a

779
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:48,640
lecturer and a journalist he writes

780
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:51,119
about a wide range of unsolved mysteries

781
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,400
and

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00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:54,400
his books include

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00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:57,599
for nobody's eyes only monster files the

784
00:39:02,230 --> 00:38:59,760
world's weirdest places the pyramids and

785
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,240
the pentagon keep out the real men in

786
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:04,560
black the nasa conspiracies contactees

787
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:07,599
and memoirs of a monster hunter he

788
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,560
writes

789
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,160
for different magazines around the world

790
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,720
and mysterious universe he has appeared

791
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,880
on numerous television shows including

792
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:16,800
fox news the history channel's ancient

793
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:20,160
aliens monster quest ufo hunters vh1's

794
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,599
legend hunters

795
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:23,599
national geographic channels the truth

796
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,040
about ufos and paranorm paranatural and

797
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:29,440
bbc's out of this world msnbc's

798
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:31,280
countdown and sci-fi channels proved

799
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,400
positive he's done every tv show

800
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,800
except mine and i would like to welcome

801
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:38,960
back to fade to black the one and only

802
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,400
nick redfern nick how you doing my man

803
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:44,560
hey jimmy it's good good

804
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:46,079
yeah

805
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,119
and

806
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:49,520
um i'm gonna let everybody know

807
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:50,400
uh

808
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,680
lives in texas where they do not have

809
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:55,520
the internet yet

810
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,359
but nick uh soon though the state

811
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:02,160
is going to join the rest of us

812
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,200
well

813
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,400
that's not quite true but um i've had um

814
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:08,160
in the last couple of days i've had some

815
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:09,359
problems

816
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:11,920
with the internet and signals and you

817
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,000
know it but um

818
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:16,400
i think we kind of between us figuring

819
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,359
it out

820
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,319
um to the extent that we could but uh

821
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,319
but those things happen you know one at

822
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:24,960
a time so well you know

823
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:28,720
we're just going old school and uh

824
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:30,079
we're doing uh

825
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,359
uh

826
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,839
the the way radio should be theater of

827
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:36,000
the mind theater of the mind it's great

828
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:39,680
to have you back i have uh my zz top

829
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,160
shirt on tonight for the great state of

830
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,880
texas and of course music and and

831
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,240
everything else

832
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,920
and

833
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:50,000
that's what happens when uh nick redfern

834
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:53,200
is on the show nick um i i kind of want

835
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:56,640
to start out here um with you

836
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:00,880
um i spoke uh about cern

837
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:03,440
at the beginning of the show tonight and

838
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,319
cern you know the large hadron collider

839
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:09,040
it came online in 2008

840
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,599
and i'm of the opinion

841
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:13,920
that since 2008

842
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:16,079
the world has been a different place

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00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:17,040
right

844
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:18,079
and and

845
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,760
has have you had

846
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,000
more things to write about since cern

847
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,599
came online is it are we are we in the

848
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:27,599
middle of high strangeness

849
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,119
uh quite possibly uh from the the cern

850
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,680
in the lhc activity have you ever

851
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:36,240
thought about that

852
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:37,440
um

853
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:43,510
i haven't really dug deeply into the the

854
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,160
cern issue

855
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,720
although you know you brought up texas i

856
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:49,920
mean um

857
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:53,040
you know there was actually a texas um

858
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,400
aspect

859
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:55,760
connected to

860
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,319
cern at one point and uh before they

861
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:00,640
shut it all down and so on

862
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,000
uh did texas had a collider

863
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,839
yes yeah

864
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,359
and where was it

865
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,200
i think there's five in the united

866
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,839
states and most people don't know that

867
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:13,680
we have we have five here we have one

868
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,119
outside of chicago we have one in

869
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:19,119
in san francisco you know lawrence

870
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:20,480
livermore

871
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,440
um i think there's one in new jersey

872
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:25,839
that's three i mean i can look it up so

873
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:30,880
uh number four or five was in in texas

874
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:34,400
yeah um but at least it was it was as

875
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:39,119
sort of um tied to it to put it that way

876
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:40,400
yeah and

877
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,839
when um again um i am i'm of the

878
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:48,000
uh firm belief

879
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,520
that things have been activated and i

880
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,760
don't i don't know what it what it is

881
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,520
you know but we can look at you know

882
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,440
crazy stuff like you know the mandela

883
00:43:02,069 --> 00:42:58,960
effect right

884
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:02,079
um now ufos are in the news and being

885
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,440
cited where

886
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:06,240
uh by official outlets we haven't had

887
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,680
that before

888
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:10,000
um

889
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,240
the world has just been tipped upside

890
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:15,119
down and i'm not sure

891
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:16,240
why

892
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:16,960
what

893
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,560
supernatural and the paranormal going on

894
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,720
all at the same time

895
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,200
um well it's a good uh it's a good

896
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:27,920
question um i think a lot of it comes

897
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,200
down to one thing that the human race

898
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:33,760
we're just a violent

899
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,640
um

900
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,920
spacious

901
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,800
and

902
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:38,240
you know

903
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:41,839
mean

904
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,560
we're at war here and there you know

905
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:47,280
there's viruses all over the place you

906
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:49,839
know um

907
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,119
you know you put all that together and

908
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:54,960
you know it's no wonder that people are

909
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,760
sort of you know having meltdowns and

910
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:00,560
things like that um

911
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:03,760
you know and you think back say

912
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,400
10 12 15 years ago

913
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:08,400
you know i mean there's always problems

914
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:10,319
and whatever but if you think look at

915
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,440
things now i mean it's sort of

916
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,560
doubled and multipled uh as well you

917
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:17,839
know so

918
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,200
i think we can say for sure that

919
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,319
you know the world or civilization is

920
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,040
kind of you know going down a path

921
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,000
that's um re we really shouldn't be

922
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,280
going down they and that path is like

923
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,440
meltdown you know

924
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,960
you know there's so many people i mean

925
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:38,720
all these people

926
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,280
shooting other people for no reason at

927
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,839
all you know i mean it's just it's

928
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:45,839
craziness you know

929
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:50,319
yeah and and um i want to start off with

930
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:54,880
uh ufos and but but here's the deal

931
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,440
um i i i wonder and many do

932
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:01,920
how are they getting here you know are

933
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:03,920
they traveling faster than the speed of

934
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,400
light are they using wormholes are they

935
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,800
just on a ship for a hundred thousand

936
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,160
years and

937
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,800
and in cruise control uh

938
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,640
is it a nuts and bolts thing is it

939
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,280
crafts that are showing up here are they

940
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,880
inter-dimensional

941
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,560
and we wonder about all of these

942
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,720
different things is it's some technology

943
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,480
that we don't understand

944
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,880
and years ago

945
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:27,839
um

946
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:30,400
you said you were on a panel that i was

947
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,520
hosting

948
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:33,119
and you said

949
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,839
something that i have never forgotten

950
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,400
um i asked you that question i asked the

951
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,000
entire panel the question i think you

952
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:42,000
were sitting next to stanton friedman

953
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:42,960
right

954
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,640
and uh and you said well jimmy

955
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,200
it may not be what you think

956
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,839
maybe they're already here maybe they

957
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,000
have a base on the moon

958
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:56,640
and i turned to you and i said that's an

959
00:46:03,829 --> 00:45:59,760
original thought and you said no

960
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,839
my dad told me that right now do you do

961
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,920
you remember do you remember answering

962
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:08,400
that question like that

963
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,760
um

964
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:11,119
vaguely

965
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,640
i think but

966
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:15,359
but um in relation to the question

967
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:19,920
itself i would be very surprised if um

968
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,960
you know the the sort of the linear way

969
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:25,280
to get from there to here and

970
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:28,240
so on i would be very surprised if

971
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,280
things

972
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,280
go down that way

973
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,760
i think it is it is something along the

974
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,720
lines of sort of um

975
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:39,599
uh portals that kind of thing you know

976
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,440
to allow you to get from point a to

977
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,640
point z

978
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:45,599
um

979
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,160
in times in short times i would be very

980
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,480
surprised if it was like you know okay

981
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:56,960
well let's just hit the accelerator and

982
00:47:03,109 --> 00:46:59,920
we'll just go that direction you know

983
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,119
it's not going to be anything um

984
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,040
sort of um just

985
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:07,839
straight line like that at all

986
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,480
so yeah i think either

987
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,319
i think there's a possibility that there

988
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,640
could be sort of an extraterrestrial

989
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:15,760
presence

990
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,680
somewhere you know very close to us or

991
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:21,599
if that's not the answer the other

992
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:25,040
answer is something along the lines of

993
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,400
getting to here from there and so on but

994
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,800
in incredible times

995
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,960
are you uh you've been writing about

996
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:35,440
this for so long and and doing your

997
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,720
research

998
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,880
um are you surprised

999
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:41,520
by some of the comments uh from our own

1000
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:43,680
government and military

1001
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:44,640
that

1002
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:48,240
this this phenomenon whatever it is

1003
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,440
uh may not be interstellar that it may

1004
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,480
be here it may be a civilization

1005
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,880
that that exists in our oceans and

1006
00:48:02,069 --> 00:47:58,319
somewhere that

1007
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:02,079
uh avoids us and humanity but they live

1008
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,960
alongside of us are you surprised by

1009
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:06,720
those kind of comments coming from

1010
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:09,680
official sources

1011
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:12,480
not really i mean if you think ivan

1012
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:16,559
sanderson way back in the 1960s um came

1013
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:19,760
up with this scenario that what if you

1014
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:22,720
know these ufos were seen in the sky

1015
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:25,760
what if they are actually um living

1016
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,000
um deep in the open um deep in the

1017
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,000
oceans um

1018
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:31,920
and i think that's an intriguing

1019
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:34,880
scenario you know we're looking for them

1020
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:36,720
or when i say them you know whatever

1021
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,280
they are um you know we're looking for

1022
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:41,280
them all the time

1023
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:44,319
maybe they've been on our planet for

1024
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:46,400
who knows for how long

1025
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:50,319
and uh maybe they can consider our world

1026
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,440
their world as well i mean if you look

1027
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:54,880
at for example

1028
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,319
the space brothers in the 1950s you know

1029
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,960
um tied with the the contact t

1030
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:03,520
phenomenon um

1031
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:06,720
if you look at a lot of those early 1950

1032
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,599
stories from the contactees

1033
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,720
um

1034
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,680
you can find a lot of accounts where the

1035
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,160
space brothers come across like these to

1036
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,839
somebody greek they're kind of like

1037
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,040
bullying

1038
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:21,599
characters you know lay down your

1039
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,400
nuclear weapons don't do this

1040
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:26,640
we want you to do this and that

1041
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,960
and it's like well hang on a minute it's

1042
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:30,640
our planet well

1043
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,839
well maybe

1044
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:33,599
it is their planet

1045
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,119
so i think

1046
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,200
you know we need to kind of

1047
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:39,520
sort of go away from just the black and

1048
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,400
white angle there are aliens here and

1049
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,400
they're coming from a different planet i

1050
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,000
think it's far more

1051
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:48,400
difficult i mean you mentioned for

1052
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,680
example

1053
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,680
you know without our governments and

1054
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:54,079
what they think about it and of course

1055
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:57,040
you know if you look back um sort of

1056
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:58,400
2017

1057
00:50:03,190 --> 00:49:59,760
you know when we

1058
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,200
all these stories started to uh surface

1059
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:05,680
about government agencies that were

1060
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,480
going to be become a bit more open

1061
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,720
in terms of what they're doing in

1062
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:13,520
relation to the ufo phenomenon and then

1063
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,160
of course you know this all got tied in

1064
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,000
with the um

1065
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,640
you know things like the skin walker uh

1066
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:22,720
phenomenon which

1067
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:27,119
brings kind of like a supernatural even

1068
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:29,599
an occult aspect to this

1069
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:32,880
um you know if you look at for example

1070
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:35,599
you know a lot of the stories um in the

1071
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,319
last couple of years you know there's

1072
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:40,960
there's been government people

1073
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,240
and military people investigating all

1074
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,880
these phenomena and then falling sick

1075
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:47,839
and

1076
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,200
things like that you know where

1077
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,280
what we're we're dealing with something

1078
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,400
that isn't really just i think um

1079
00:51:02,589 --> 00:51:00,640
just sort of an extraterrestrial

1080
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:02,599
phenomenon and it may not be

1081
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:05,040
extraterrestrial at all

1082
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:06,839
you know it could be

1083
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,000
inter-dimensional multi-dimensional

1084
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,079
but um

1085
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,480
i've always felt but not always but for

1086
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:17,520
for a long time i've felt that the the

1087
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:18,720
ufo

1088
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:22,960
phenomenon has a parallel

1089
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:26,240
with the extraterrestrial angle

1090
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:27,200
and

1091
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:30,720
um

1092
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,760
their work if you like to

1093
00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:35,359
to present themselves as

1094
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,200
extraterrestrial when they may be

1095
00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:40,960
multi-dimensional but it's but it works

1096
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,040
well for them to pretend to be

1097
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:45,920
extraterrestrials you know there could

1098
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:49,040
be a lot of sort of um

1099
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,559
you know sort of

1100
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,359
a lot of playing around you know with

1101
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:55,520
with what this person said and what that

1102
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,960
person said and so on

1103
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,720
do you believe

1104
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,960
that the government actually knows

1105
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:04,800
what's going on

1106
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,839
right and i i'm being direct here you

1107
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,839
know because we don't know we don't have

1108
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,440
the answers to the phenomenon you know

1109
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,960
we don't we don't have we don't know

1110
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,359
what's going on or is it the opposite of

1111
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,359
that is that just what they're saying

1112
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:18,559
publicly

1113
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,359
but do you believe that they fully

1114
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:23,760
are cognizant that they understand

1115
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:27,200
exactly what is happening

1116
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,480
no i what i think is that government

1117
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:33,599
agencies over the last 10 years they're

1118
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:34,640
about

1119
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:37,760
perhaps a little bit less than that um

1120
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,079
you know all these uh revelations that

1121
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,720
are coming out again like skin walker a

1122
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,040
tip all that kind of stuff

1123
00:52:49,230 --> 00:52:48,079
with all that coming out i think

1124
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:49,240
there is a

1125
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:55,520
phenomenon and yes something is coming

1126
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,160
here but that doesn't mean

1127
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,119
in the slightest that it has to be

1128
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,839
extraterrestrial and it doesn't mean

1129
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,240
they have to be friendly

1130
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:08,400
or not friendly you know we don't really

1131
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:09,200
know

1132
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,800
um and i think at the best in

1133
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,720
based on all that i've read in the last

1134
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,480
sort of five years you know when all

1135
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,720
these revelations started to come out

1136
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:21,119
and whatever but harry reid and things

1137
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:22,319
like that

1138
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,680
um

1139
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:25,680
i've sort of got the

1140
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,720
the the approach if you like that

1141
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,640
we know something

1142
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:32,720
but that doesn't mean

1143
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:35,599
they're friendly and it doesn't mean

1144
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:40,160
there has to be a positive an agenda

1145
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:41,280
i mean

1146
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,400
you know

1147
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:45,280
we just don't really have many answers

1148
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,800
and i don't think for one reason at all

1149
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:50,800
do they uh do we know where they're

1150
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:54,079
coming from you know i think um you know

1151
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:57,040
i think the word alien we can use it

1152
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:58,240
because they

1153
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:01,520
i guess they are aliens you know um but

1154
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,040
doesn't necessarily mean they're

1155
00:54:09,390 --> 00:54:06,720
extraterrestrial but for whatever reason

1156
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,400
i think a lot of people want it to be

1157
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,240
extraterrestrial but i i think it's more

1158
00:54:16,510 --> 00:54:13,920
of kind of

1159
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,520
something along the lines of a like a

1160
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:18,880
multi-dimensional thing and and like i

1161
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:21,760
said it may not be um

1162
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,559
something that that's on our side i mean

1163
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:27,280
that may not be what we want to hear but

1164
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,800
but it might be what we will hear

1165
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:32,640
and it could be

1166
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,440
nick all of the above

1167
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:37,760
right well that's true that's true it

1168
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,160
could be it could be et could be uh

1169
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:42,480
interdimensional could be time travelers

1170
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:45,599
us from the future it could be a a

1171
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,720
parallel civilization living alongside

1172
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:51,440
us here on earth it could be

1173
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:57,589
trying to pigeonhole any of this into

1174
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:00,319
one specific category i think that's the

1175
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:03,200
mistake there are billions of of

1176
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,599
earth-like planets just in our milky way

1177
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:08,000
billions in the goldilocks zone

1178
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:09,119
right

1179
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:12,079
how many of those are visiting earth and

1180
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:13,520
none of them would look the same

1181
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,480
everything would be different right

1182
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,880
yeah and i think and i think that

1183
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,799
demonstrates um

1184
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,040
one of the most important things you

1185
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,240
know going back to 1947 when the whole

1186
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:28,799
flying saucer phenomenon began

1187
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:31,839
and then comparing that to where we are

1188
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,760
now in 2022 well

1189
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:37,680
although we've got a lot of

1190
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,040
a lot of more testimony and data and

1191
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:44,160
accounts from people we really haven't

1192
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,040
got

1193
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,520
answers to the phenomenon

1194
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,200
and um

1195
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:51,760
and that's an unfortunate thing but i do

1196
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:54,400
sometimes wonder is it being

1197
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:58,160
deliberately helped um held back from us

1198
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:59,520
um

1199
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,240
you know it's hard to say but i mean

1200
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,079
again sort of going back to the skin

1201
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,000
walker ranch and everything like that

1202
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:08,720
which has started to come out further

1203
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,920
more and more

1204
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,079
you know and you've got people falling

1205
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:14,400
sick you know and

1206
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:17,440
in the military and in government

1207
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,960
offices who work in in these programs

1208
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:21,839
um

1209
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:24,640
now whether it's deliberate or not but

1210
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:27,359
there's a lot of negativity as well

1211
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:30,799
in these um these events and incidents

1212
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:34,880
what whatever the truth may be

1213
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,880
and i'm not

1214
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,040
please everybody listen to my words

1215
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:41,280
whatever the truth may be

1216
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,079
there is no way that the government

1217
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:45,839
could tell us what it is

1218
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,559
well

1219
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,040
you know what i mean whatever the truth

1220
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,319
may be it's interventional beings uh

1221
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:54,720
living among us they can't say that to

1222
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,760
the world

1223
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,760
it'd be better if they just said aliens

1224
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,680
are here you can't you know what i mean

1225
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,200
you can't

1226
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,040
the truth i don't think there's any way

1227
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:04,720
that the government could find a way to

1228
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:05,520
uh

1229
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,119
extreme panic and freak out

1230
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,359
well yeah and i think one of the

1231
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,000
important things that that i sort of

1232
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:18,799
started to get into probably around

1233
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:20,960
about 15

1234
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,599
close to 20 years ago maybe that i

1235
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:25,359
realized that it wasn't just

1236
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:26,720
extraterrestrial

1237
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:30,640
but what there was was sort of like

1238
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:33,920
a blending of the extraterrestrial

1239
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,119
with not just paranormal but also with

1240
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,359
the occult as well

1241
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,760
i mean for example perfect classic

1242
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:43,680
example like um

1243
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:46,960
the great beast alistair crowley i mean

1244
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:51,040
he invoked this entity called lamb

1245
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:52,559
l-a-m

1246
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:57,119
now if you google l i m um lamb

1247
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,240
and aleister crowley and have a look at

1248
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:01,680
what um

1249
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:04,880
lamb looked like lamb look just looks

1250
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:07,040
like the creature on the front of

1251
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:10,079
whitley strieber's communion book and

1252
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:13,200
it's it's literally almost identical

1253
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,079
and uh and this was um

1254
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:18,799
this was all down to aleister crowley as

1255
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:21,280
i said invoking this entity from some

1256
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:22,480
other realm

1257
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,359
um

1258
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:26,319
so for me and of course you you'll know

1259
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,520
i'll remember my book um final events

1260
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:30,720
which um

1261
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,319
came out about

1262
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,480
uh 15 years ago

1263
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:36,400
which talked about a a

1264
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:40,480
group kind of like these other a type 80

1265
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:41,520
kind of

1266
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:43,280
organizations

1267
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:45,760
where they were looking into the

1268
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,839
so-called demonic side of the ufo

1269
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,640
phenomenon and

1270
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,240
and i think a lot of people in

1271
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:54,720
government in the military in the

1272
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,359
intelligence community are now

1273
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:59,040
be coming to see

1274
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:00,720
that there is this

1275
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:03,520
yes there's an extraterrestrial or an

1276
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:06,079
alien angle however you want to term it

1277
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:09,280
but there is some kind of supernatural

1278
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:12,960
aspect at time sort of tied to it

1279
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:17,359
um before we get to the break i am going

1280
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,559
to

1281
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:21,440
uh just in case uh

1282
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,319
people may not be familiar with

1283
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,559
uh who lamb is

1284
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:28,400
uh let me bust this up on the screen

1285
00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:30,079
that's lamb

1286
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:33,599
and now this was um

1287
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:36,079
was this 1932

1288
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:37,920
i believe

1289
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:40,880
yeah this was decades and decades and

1290
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:45,119
decades ago yeah and um and um

1291
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:49,839
and crowley um essentially invoked lamb

1292
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:53,680
and um and this was not done by you know

1293
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,720
sort of

1294
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:57,119
aiming telescopes to the sky you know

1295
01:00:01,109 --> 01:00:00,240
and saying come on down you know give us

1296
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:01,119
you know

1297
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,119
give us the truth or whatever it was

1298
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:05,760
nothing like that at all you know this

1299
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:06,720
was

1300
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,160
totally driven around the supernatural

1301
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,720
and the paranormal and yet

1302
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,880
you could you could make

1303
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:16,799
a case that lamb

1304
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:19,119
and as i said the creature on the front

1305
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,160
of communion you look at the two of them

1306
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:24,240
you know it could be um

1307
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:34,870
i mean when you look at lamb

1308
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:38,319
what what pops into your head right and

1309
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,720
but the the fact that uh uh crowley uh

1310
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:44,640
drew this picture

1311
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:47,280
um i i think it's 1932 might have been

1312
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:50,480
uh just before that but that was uh what

1313
01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:53,839
15 years before roswell number one

1314
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:57,200
and number two the first kind of gray

1315
01:01:02,230 --> 01:00:59,839
descriptions that probably goes all the

1316
01:01:03,190 --> 01:01:02,240
way up to 1961 with betty and barney

1317
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:03,200
hill

1318
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:05,599
um and so that would have been 30 years

1319
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,240
after uh aleister crowley

1320
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,880
and not many people knew unless you were

1321
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:12,480
in crowley circles

1322
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:15,280
uh knew about lamb lamb

1323
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:17,760
we know about lamb now in in popular

1324
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:20,799
culture of course but back then nobody

1325
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:23,920
would have seen uh the images of lamb uh

1326
01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:29,040
certainly not 1947 54 58 61 right

1327
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:30,000
yeah

1328
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:31,440
and there's actually something else that

1329
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:33,440
a lot of people don't know about

1330
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:36,400
alistair crowley he used to have a house

1331
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:38,720
at loch ness scotland uh called

1332
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:40,480
burlesque in house

1333
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:41,839
and um

1334
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:42,720
and

1335
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:49,920
sorts of um mystical activity

1336
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:53,599
um when he was when he lived at um at

1337
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:58,160
loch ness and i think i i don't think

1338
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:01,440
it's um just a coincidence that we've

1339
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:02,240
got

1340
01:02:04,870 --> 01:02:03,119
um

1341
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:04,880
crowley

1342
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:08,559
ufos loch ness strange creatures in loch

1343
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:12,000
ness um which a lot of people think the

1344
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:14,240
the loch ness monsters are supernatural

1345
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:16,480
creatures you know you put all this

1346
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:19,280
together you know and you and crowley

1347
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:21,839
pops up here and he pops up there and he

1348
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,559
pops up at loch ness and then with

1349
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:27,280
with with the cover of communion you

1350
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:28,079
know

1351
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:34,640
puts a thread together and which they

1352
01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:38,079
become multiple threads and um and i

1353
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:39,760
actually wrote a book on the about the

1354
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:42,400
loch ness monster called nessie which

1355
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,280
talks about all of the supernatural side

1356
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,799
of crowley

1357
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:48,400
and

1358
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,760
people might be surprised

1359
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:55,359
in terms of

1360
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:58,000
whether this really is extraterrestrial

1361
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:59,359
or something

1362
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:00,559
even

1363
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:03,680
far more stranger than we can really

1364
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:04,960
figure it out

1365
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:06,880
let's take our break right here and the

1366
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:09,200
other part about uh crowley and that

1367
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:12,319
house jimmy page bought it

1368
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:14,400
that's right he did yeah jimmy page

1369
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:15,280
bought it

1370
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:17,440
our guest today

1371
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:19,680
absolutely our guest tonight nick

1372
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:21,520
redford i am your host jimmy church

1373
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,240
tonight we're talking about our strange

1374
01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:25,839
world by the way

1375
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:29,039
count popper just posted that the

1376
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:30,880
the lamb drawing

1377
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:33,280
was 1918

1378
01:03:39,220 --> 01:03:35,039
incredible this is fade to black we'll

1379
01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:50,230
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1380
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:52,390
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1381
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:55,890
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1382
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1383
01:04:03,270 --> 01:03:59,839
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1384
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1385
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1386
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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight our strange

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world with nick redfern

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01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:38,480
i gotta say

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um

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,199
i i've got most of nick's books

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01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:45,440
and i have uh the honor and the

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01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,799
privilege uh to get advanced copies of

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01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:50,640
each one when it comes out

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01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:53,279
and every time nick uh that i get a book

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01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,239
i'm like

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01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:56,960
how does he do it right how does he do

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01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:59,920
it but here's here's the thing

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01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,799
um

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01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:02,480
we live in a

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01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:05,279
on a very strange planet man and there's

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01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:07,759
strange stuff going on all the time

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01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:09,679
you don't have

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01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:12,640
a well that's going to run dry do you

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01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:16,400
it's always it's always out there

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01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,120
well that's true i guess but um but i

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01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:21,600
mean when i'm writing books you know

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01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:24,799
it's it's it's not sort of a big

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01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:27,199
issue really i mean um

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01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:30,239
i usually do a book um

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01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:31,520
saw about

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01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:34,719
75 000 words and

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01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,199
you know i work from home and i work

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01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:39,839
nine to five you know i don't work at

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01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:44,159
weekends um or evenings um i just do

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01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,679
nine to five uh monday to friday um

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01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:49,600
because i like you know to have a

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01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:53,040
have a you know a normal life as well or

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01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:56,320
or as normal as it can be and um

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01:10:05,669 --> 01:09:57,280
um

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01:10:07,510 --> 01:10:05,679
know if you're gonna do this

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01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,520
you are you are gonna sit down and

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01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,080
you're gonna get it done and um

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01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:12,080
and that's an important thing you know

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01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:13,120
um

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01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,159
for me it's a passion but it's also you

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01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:19,280
know something where i take the approach

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01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:20,320
of

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and um

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and i think that's the bet for me at

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least that's the best way to sort of

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01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:31,199
approach the research the writing

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01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:32,239
and

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01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:38,800
when when it comes to uh when when i

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01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:42,840
think about you nick i do think about

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01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,080
cryptozoology uh first and i well no i

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01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,400
think of dri the band

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01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:50,560
um i think i think of manchester first

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01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:52,719
but then after that

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01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:56,320
um i i i think about cryptozoology and

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01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:00,159
your coverage on that and so when we

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01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:02,960
when we use that broad term

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01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,719
um is is bigfoot underneath that

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01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:08,320
along with

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01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:11,120
you know the chupacabra are

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01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:12,719
would you consider

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01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:16,400
that cryptozoology as well

1544
01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:18,080
well yeah i mean this that's a good

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01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:20,719
point because a lot of people in the

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01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:23,360
field of crypto zoology and maybe for

1547
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:25,360
people who haven't heard of that it's

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01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:29,199
the the the study of unknown animals you

1549
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,800
know we're talking like

1550
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:32,880
we've heard earlier about the loch ness

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01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:35,760
monster and um you mentioned bigfoot and

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01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:40,159
chupacabra things like that and um and

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01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:41,520
for me

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01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:44,080
i think again this sort of like a

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01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:47,360
paranormal or a strange aspect to just

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01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:50,239
about all of these creatures

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01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:53,040
however on the other side of the coin a

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01:11:59,590 --> 01:11:56,400
lot of crypto zoologists will say no

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01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:59,600
these are just unknown animals well

1560
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:00,800
they're wrong

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01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:01,840
you know

1562
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:07,120
example with bigfoot i mean the bigfoot

1563
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,280
creatures are seen all across the united

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01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:11,280
states you know they're sort of

1565
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:12,480
typically

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01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:14,800
seven foot seven foot five

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01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,760
they've been seen all over the place

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01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:18,719
and

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01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:22,080
we cannot catch one of them we've never

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01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,360
captured one you know um

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01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:28,080
and people say occasionally they've seen

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01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,040
them vanish in front of them almost like

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01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:34,080
in the predator mover movie you know

1574
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:36,640
with uh arnold schwarzenegger where they

1575
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:38,000
just vanish

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01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:39,040
um

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01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:39,920
and

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01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:42,800
you think the the sheer scale of the

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01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:45,520
population of the united states

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01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,400
and there are these seven-foot giants in

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01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:50,400
the united states

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01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:53,600
and we cannot catch one you know

1583
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:56,480
i don't i'm not asking for 20 or 30

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01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:59,360
bigfoots to you know to be studied

1585
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:01,840
one will do you know

1586
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,719
but we ca there's no planet there's no

1587
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,560
animal on the planet

1588
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:08,560
if you like um

1589
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:12,000
apart from the bigfoot creatures which

1590
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:13,120
um

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01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:14,719
evade us

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01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:16,840
on every single

1593
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:18,880
occasion and

1594
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:21,679
they never get shot the photographs are

1595
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:24,400
always used usually blurry

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01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:25,280
and

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01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:27,600
when you put all that together you have

1598
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,400
to realize that there's something wrong

1599
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:32,640
there and it's the same with like the

1600
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:35,199
mothman story you know there's there's

1601
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:38,400
clear paranormal aspects surrounding

1602
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:41,120
the the mothman story in point pleasant

1603
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:45,679
west virginia back in the 1960s and

1604
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:48,400
you brought up the the chupacabra well

1605
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:52,239
i've been on many expeditions to um

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01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:54,800
to puerto rico investigating the

1607
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:57,920
original um chupacabras and the

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01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,800
so-called texas chupacabras as well

1609
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:02,719
which by the way are actually different

1610
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,280
different different things but

1611
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:08,159
um one of the things i've found on every

1612
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:09,360
time

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01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:12,080
that i've been to puerto rico i've got a

1614
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:14,960
lot of really weird stories where people

1615
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,080
have said that the chupacabras were sort

1616
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:20,480
of shape shifters in other words they

1617
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,120
could alter their appearances and um

1618
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:26,960
and when you start to go down those

1619
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:29,520
pathways and um

1620
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:32,080
and take on different forms that kind of

1621
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,239
things again

1622
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:36,960
we're not just talking about unknown

1623
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,679
animals we're talking about something

1624
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,440
that really

1625
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:44,000
isn't really an animal at least not in

1626
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:44,960
the

1627
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:48,400
terminology

1628
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:51,120
here's the deal

1629
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,640
millions of people cannot be suffering

1630
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,719
from some crazy psychosis and

1631
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:58,640
hallucinations

1632
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:00,400
you know what that's the part whether

1633
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:03,440
it's chupacabra or bigfoot and bigfoot's

1634
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,120
been cited all around the world right

1635
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:07,520
it's just not here in the united states

1636
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:09,920
but if you go and nick you know this if

1637
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:11,600
you go up to

1638
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:14,960
uh northern uh california

1639
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:18,400
all the way up uh to washington state

1640
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:21,360
that corner the northwest united states

1641
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:22,960
everybody

1642
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:24,960
he's got a bigfoot sighting

1643
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:27,679
everybody's got a bigfoot story and

1644
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:30,480
we're talking about millions of people

1645
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,320
um and you can go up there and try to

1646
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,080
talk ufos

1647
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,560
and and you know

1648
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,800
but you want to bring up bigfoot

1649
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:40,800
everybody's got a bigfoot story and it

1650
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:42,320
doesn't matter

1651
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:46,000
who it is and a bigfoot sighting and it

1652
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:50,400
can't be psychosis something is going on

1653
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:51,120
no

1654
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:53,600
what it comes down to is that whatever

1655
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,320
these animals are they're not

1656
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:58,239
just missing

1657
01:16:02,310 --> 01:15:59,520
um

1658
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:02,320
unknown animals right i'm not even sure

1659
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:05,120
they are actually animals you know right

1660
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:08,800
right right it's hard to say but

1661
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,239
uh but there's no doubt in my mind um

1662
01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:13,760
you know there's there's no doubt that

1663
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:16,080
they exist you know they're out there

1664
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,960
but the problem is so many people in the

1665
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:20,800
cryptozoology

1666
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:23,040
arena are

1667
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:26,000
essentially um

1668
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:29,360
approaching this um the search for these

1669
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:32,400
creatures as if they're they're you know

1670
01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:34,800
if they're looking for a bear or a polar

1671
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:38,320
bear or a penguin or something you know

1672
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,040
um but that's not the way to do it what

1673
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,679
we have to do is realize that there just

1674
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:45,679
seem to be a blending between the

1675
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:48,400
paranormal and bigfoots

1676
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:49,280
and

1677
01:17:02,470 --> 01:16:59,440
if we would only do this what we should

1678
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:02,480
do is to realize that all of this stuff

1679
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:04,880
has to be blended together and i think

1680
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,199
that eventually would give us the

1681
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,520
answers but the problem is there's so

1682
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:12,400
many people in the crypto zoological

1683
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:15,920
field um you know filled with egos and

1684
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,080
basically saying oh you know i'm the big

1685
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,000
foot guy and the other ones i'm the

1686
01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:22,719
nessie guy that kind of thing well let's

1687
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:25,040
all just get together and try and figure

1688
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,199
out you know not what these creatures

1689
01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:30,000
are but why aleister crowley had a house

1690
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,159
at loch ness you know

1691
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:34,400
that kind of thing

1692
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:37,280
um eddie just posted up he said uh

1693
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:40,000
blurry bigfoot picks may be the result

1694
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:43,360
of the radiation field they create

1695
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:45,280
gimlin you know the gimlin patterson

1696
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,040
film was on eight millimeter film

1697
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,080
that's a really really really good point

1698
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:54,560
that's actually quite strong

1699
01:18:01,830 --> 01:17:58,000
i i i like that comment i have i have

1700
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:01,840
been on the fence um uh with bigfoot

1701
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:04,880
i i i just don't know right and i've

1702
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:08,400
always thought of something biological

1703
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:11,440
right an undiscovered species but why

1704
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:13,840
haven't we hit one with a car yet right

1705
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:16,159
what why hasn't that happened

1706
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:18,640
but right i agree with that but the

1707
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:20,560
other side of me says there's way too

1708
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:23,920
many sightings so the phenomenon is real

1709
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:25,840
but i've been leaning i've been leaning

1710
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,760
more inter-dimensional you know that

1711
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,000
there's another aspect to bigfoot that

1712
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:32,880
we just simply just don't understand the

1713
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:35,840
phenomenon is real but it just may not

1714
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:39,440
be biological and and i agree with you

1715
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:41,920
if if that if that happens

1716
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,159
right if something is proven how do you

1717
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,760
think that

1718
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:47,280
that is going to happen is that going to

1719
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:48,880
be from physics

1720
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:50,800
is it going to be from science what

1721
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:52,800
what's going to what's going to prove

1722
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:55,520
the phenomenon

1723
01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:58,560
yeah you're right and those are all the

1724
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:00,320
sort of the key issues which are

1725
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:01,840
starting to

1726
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,400
to come to the fore now i mean a good

1727
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:06,719
example you know we mentioned briefly

1728
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,880
earlier with the you know the skin

1729
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:10,000
walker

1730
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:12,800
phenomenon and i've investigated that

1731
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:14,800
quite often um

1732
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:18,560
several occasions on tv shows and um

1733
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:22,480
and expeditions of my my own and

1734
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:24,400
you know when you start to look into the

1735
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:26,400
whole skin walker

1736
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,600
aspect

1737
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:29,760
you know or phenomenon

1738
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:33,040
and you start to hear these stories of

1739
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:35,040
people falling sick

1740
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:37,679
and you know they go to bed and then

1741
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:39,360
they wake up in the middle of the night

1742
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:41,920
with like a skin walker sort of looming

1743
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:45,440
over the bed and yet they also

1744
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:48,480
they also saw sort of strange balls of

1745
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:49,360
light

1746
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:52,320
in the sky above i mean

1747
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:54,239
you know it's hard to

1748
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,760
to determine how that can all happen

1749
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:59,040
but it does

1750
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:00,320
and um

1751
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:03,280
but i think now we're beginning to see

1752
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:05,440
you know when you when you said

1753
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,920
jimmy about when you said about you know

1754
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:09,840
how can this be

1755
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:12,400
with you know in relation to bigfoot you

1756
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:15,199
know where they look like giant apes but

1757
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,679
you've got all these different aspects

1758
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,880
kind of

1759
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:20,880
you know surrounding them

1760
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:23,600
and and i think now we are beginning to

1761
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:25,360
see that um

1762
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:27,920
you know it is we shouldn't really be

1763
01:20:32,910 --> 01:20:30,840
sort of calling ourselves

1764
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:32,920
cryptozoologists and

1765
01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:36,239
euphologists or ghost hunters we should

1766
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:37,840
just be

1767
01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:40,080
investigators of the weird if you like

1768
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:42,960
or something like that but by

1769
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,560
by sort of just putting us in one um

1770
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:48,880
angle and into something else into

1771
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:52,480
another angle you know it sort of um

1772
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:54,880
keeps us apart and that's the last thing

1773
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:56,960
we really need we want to be or we

1774
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:59,120
should be able to

1775
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:01,280
figure out and put all the pieces

1776
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:03,760
together rather than give each other

1777
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:06,000
little pieces here and there

1778
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:06,880
now

1779
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:09,280
what about and this is like going you

1780
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:12,480
know completely uh out there

1781
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,159
do you do you think that there's a

1782
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:17,040
connection between ufo sightings and

1783
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:20,000
bigfoot sightings

1784
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:22,239
oh yeah that there's a there's there's

1785
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:25,040
dozens of cases like that um i don't

1786
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:32,149
on your show but stan uh who lives in

1787
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:36,159
pennsylvania he actually wrote an entire

1788
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,000
book on um the ufo bigfoot connection

1789
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:43,040
and the book's called silence invasion

1790
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:44,239
and um

1791
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:46,080
and that's a really good book and it

1792
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:48,080
talks about how

1793
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:52,960
um the ufo phenomenon um blends together

1794
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:56,159
uh with the bigfoot phenomenon and i

1795
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:57,040
would

1796
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:01,440
for anybody who may have seen a ufo at

1797
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,040
the same and locate and locale as

1798
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:07,679
bigfoot you know i would definitely

1799
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:11,760
recommend that people um read um stan's

1800
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:14,560
book silence invasion that's a really

1801
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:17,760
good one but again the problem is so

1802
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:21,120
many cryptozoologists just will not deal

1803
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,679
with the ufo angle they're just like you

1804
01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:25,679
know those people are on crack or

1805
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:27,920
whatever you know yeah

1806
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:30,400
when then when anybody says and that

1807
01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:32,000
includes you nick

1808
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:38,550
but whenever anybody says

1809
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:42,239
um i have the answers i know

1810
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:43,520
i run

1811
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:49,199
i i really don't

1812
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:51,679
nobody has the answers and what about

1813
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:53,840
like the outlook pass

1814
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:57,520
right is that the perfect scenario of

1815
01:23:01,430 --> 01:23:00,480
uh ufo sightings light in the sky and

1816
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:01,440
then

1817
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:04,480
uh a sasquatch situation on the ground

1818
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:08,400
happening uh at the very same time

1819
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,199
well yeah and and i mean if you look um

1820
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:13,199
throughout the world you know we've got

1821
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:16,960
bigfoot um we've got the yeti in um in

1822
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:18,880
the himalayas

1823
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,120
but there's a lot of other ape-like

1824
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:23,920
creatures in the world um

1825
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:26,960
and a lot of them have weird aspects to

1826
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:30,960
them as well for example um in sumatra

1827
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:34,320
uh where they have a smaller um ape-like

1828
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:37,840
creature called oren pendek and

1829
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:40,080
and some people claim to have seen these

1830
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:44,000
creatures um sort of turn invisible and

1831
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:46,239
you can find a lot of cases like that

1832
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:49,360
through native american uh legends as

1833
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:50,239
well

1834
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,120
um these hairy creatures in the 1800s

1835
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:55,760
which would just vanish so you know you

1836
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,400
can find not um

1837
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:00,960
bigfoot type creatures that just vanish

1838
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:03,600
in the united states but also

1839
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,719
in different parts of the united states

1840
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,400
and the rest of the world

1841
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:10,960
as well so i think a lot of these

1842
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:14,560
unknown apes which are you know eerily

1843
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:18,880
elusive to us um i think most of them

1844
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,960
have a paranormal aspect um attached to

1845
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:23,920
them

1846
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:27,520
and i i do want to mention the panda

1847
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,120
and the reason why you know because

1848
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:32,560
uh

1849
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:36,080
the panda was like a rumor

1850
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:39,280
right it was a mythological creature

1851
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:42,239
and and then it was found in the bamboo

1852
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:44,400
forest of china

1853
01:24:50,550 --> 01:24:47,600
but this is a modern story

1854
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:50,560
and if if something doesn't want to be

1855
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:52,960
found or want to be seen

1856
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,159
it can it it can't avoid us if it wants

1857
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,320
to right

1858
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:00,239
oh yeah i mean you you're right i mean

1859
01:25:06,070 --> 01:25:03,120
the panda is a classic example i mean

1860
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:06,080
it's you know barely uh more than you

1861
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:09,280
know a century before the um

1862
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:12,000
or after i should say the um the the pat

1863
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:14,639
when the panda was found you know and i

1864
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:18,639
mean the african gorilla i mean that's

1865
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:22,080
it's that was was um you know a rumor at

1866
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,920
one point you know

1867
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:25,280
and um

1868
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:28,480
and not very long ago either you know so

1869
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:31,760
some animals you know uh large animals

1870
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:33,840
they can elude us

1871
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:34,719
but

1872
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,600
you know uh i can accept it as just a

1873
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:39,199
normality thing

1874
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:41,920
if they're just large animals you know

1875
01:25:48,149 --> 01:25:44,159
running into the woods and hiding out

1876
01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:48,159
because you know most animals have um

1877
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:50,080
you know um better

1878
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:52,159
um you know older

1879
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:55,280
hearing um you know hearing things all

1880
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:57,760
this they're all very much more

1881
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:00,719
more advanced than us however in saying

1882
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,760
that there's all these other aspects of

1883
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:05,520
these creatures

1884
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:08,880
just missing and by just missing i mean

1885
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:11,280
like the click of a finger you know and

1886
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:12,719
um

1887
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:13,679
and

1888
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:15,840
if there's a seven foot

1889
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:17,679
big foot behind you

1890
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:21,199
and then it's just gone in seconds

1891
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:24,320
you know there is something wrong there

1892
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:25,760
um

1893
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,239
many people just like i said just don't

1894
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,480
want to know um

1895
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:38,719
you know they're just it's like stan

1896
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:41,679
friedman you know stan was a great guy

1897
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:44,480
but he was so stubborn about stubborn

1898
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:47,600
about the mj 12 documents now these are

1899
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,760
real you know this is this is a real

1900
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:50,800
deal

1901
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:53,360
and um

1902
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:55,840
one thing that um

1903
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:56,960
uh

1904
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:58,960
fascinates me i brought up the pacific

1905
01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:01,440
northwest but if you go up there

1906
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,560
and

1907
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:05,520
uh you you stop for gas

1908
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:08,560
and you go in to any quick mart gas

1909
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:11,360
station and you're gonna see a rack of

1910
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:13,760
bigfoot t-shirts right you're gonna see

1911
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:16,320
the bigfoot sculptures and it's not like

1912
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:19,920
at one place it's every place you go

1913
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:22,639
it's everywhere so i go to a bigfoot

1914
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:25,199
museum i'm on coast to coast i'm hosting

1915
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:27,600
coast to coast a.m right i go to this

1916
01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:29,840
bigfoot uh

1917
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:33,199
huge thousands of statues and things

1918
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,159
and and one of the workers there uh one

1919
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,760
of the managers comes up and we're

1920
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:39,520
having a conversation and

1921
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:42,560
and um i said uh do you guys have any

1922
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:45,199
ufo stuff here she goes what

1923
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,199
you know like a ufo t-shirt she goes

1924
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:48,800
what do you mean i said look i'm i'm the

1925
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:49,920
host of

1926
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:52,320
uh coast to coast am she goes what's

1927
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:53,440
that

1928
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:56,320
i said never mind right but

1929
01:28:01,830 --> 01:27:58,960
it now how crazy is that

1930
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:01,840
there was no ufo conversation no ufo

1931
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,040
t-shirts

1932
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,360
but she could have told me anything

1933
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:07,440
about bigfoot and i could have got

1934
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:10,320
bigfoot socks underwear coffee mugs

1935
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:11,679
keychains

1936
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,719
uh which i did buy uh all of the above

1937
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:16,000
but

1938
01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:18,239
no ufo conversation and she had never

1939
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:20,400
heard of coast to coast a.m

1940
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:23,040
and and that's the pacific northwest

1941
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:26,080
it's incredible to me

1942
01:28:44,750 --> 01:28:41,990
but i just i just wish more than

1943
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,760
anything else people would just be

1944
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:46,320
open-minded

1945
01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:48,239
rather than saying

1946
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:50,320
you know something like

1947
01:28:57,110 --> 01:28:53,760
i'm the the yeti guy you know

1948
01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:57,120
and he's this and you know this is the

1949
01:29:02,870 --> 01:28:59,840
dog man guy that kind of thing

1950
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:02,880
you know i mean we need to get answers

1951
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:04,719
rather than just strut around saying

1952
01:29:09,430 --> 01:29:07,440
yeah i'm do i do this one and you do

1953
01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:09,440
that and whatever

1954
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:12,000
but isn't everything okay

1955
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:14,480
this was my opening question for the

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01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:15,760
show tonight

1957
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:18,639
um but i delayed it to now isn't

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01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:22,000
everything connected right is every book

1959
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:23,600
that you have written i don't care if

1960
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:26,480
it's marilyn monroe or chupacabra

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01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:27,520
right

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01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:30,080
is it all well yeah

1963
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:32,960
yeah i think it is because i mean

1964
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:33,840
again

1965
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:37,120
i mean john keel you know i mean a lot

1966
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:40,400
of people in the field you know

1967
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:43,360
sort of frowned on kale but they really

1968
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:46,719
shouldn't have because he was one of the

1969
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:50,880
early people who demonstrated how and

1970
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:52,800
why um

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01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,840
that

1972
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:55,679
strange phenomena

1973
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:57,280
could be seen

1974
01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:00,159
collectively over and over again

1975
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:02,800
in the same areas now in other words you

1976
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:05,360
know in one area of forest

1977
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:08,560
people see bigfoot and bright lights

1978
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:11,520
and they see like a ghostly figure

1979
01:30:16,629 --> 01:30:14,960
all within say about four miles you know

1980
01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:16,639
something like that

1981
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:17,840
is just

1982
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:24,960
there is a paranormal aspect to it and

1983
01:30:29,629 --> 01:30:27,520
and there's no doubt that keele was one

1984
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:29,639
of the first who

1985
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:33,600
demonstrated as to there was this

1986
01:30:40,149 --> 01:30:36,960
absolute connection between all the

1987
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:40,159
different aspects of um

1988
01:30:44,790 --> 01:30:42,239
you know the um

1989
01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:44,800
of the of this phenomenon and for people

1990
01:30:49,830 --> 01:30:47,360
who haven't read um keele's books i

1991
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:49,840
think you know most people will know him

1992
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:53,040
of his book um the mothman prophecies

1993
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:55,600
but um kale did

1994
01:31:01,590 --> 01:30:58,320
several other really good ones um the

1995
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:01,600
best one for me at least is um operation

1996
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:04,080
trojan um horse

1997
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:07,520
and um and that demonstrates again

1998
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:08,480
how

1999
01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:11,360
you know you can get you can stumble

2000
01:31:16,229 --> 01:31:12,880
in the woods

2001
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:16,239
uh where somebody's seen a ufo and two

2002
01:31:23,189 --> 01:31:19,600
weeks later a bigfoot stumbles through

2003
01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:23,199
in the same area and kale realized that

2004
01:31:27,830 --> 01:31:24,000
this

2005
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:27,840
just um

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01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,880
you know just on their own

2007
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:33,440
again it's just not doable let's take

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our break right here our guest tonight

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01:31:41,590 --> 01:31:38,560
nick redfern we are talking about our

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strange world we've got a lot more to

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cover we're going to do all of that next

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after this short break i'm your host

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jimmy church

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so

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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01:38:00,870 --> 01:37:59,280
welcome back faded black i'm nervous

2134
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:00,880
tonight nick redfern is with us we're

2135
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,080
talking about our strange world

2136
01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:07,119
it is strange indeed i think

2137
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:09,760
well it's been it's been getting strange

2138
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:11,520
since electricity

2139
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,920
i i i

2140
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:15,119
swear

2141
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:18,400
as soon as we figured out electricity

2142
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,880
everything just went bonkers and and i'm

2143
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:22,719
not sure why

2144
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,159
um but one of my favorite subjects

2145
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:28,159
is the men in black

2146
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:29,040
and

2147
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:35,840
i've had my own experiences

2148
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:38,880
um and you've written your history on

2149
01:38:43,750 --> 01:38:41,280
the men in black is is some of the best

2150
01:38:45,830 --> 01:38:43,760
and i use it uh for references uh the

2151
01:38:48,070 --> 01:38:45,840
men in black is not a a modern

2152
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:48,080
phenomenon you know it didn't start with

2153
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:51,040
will smith did it the stories about

2154
01:38:55,830 --> 01:38:52,000
black

2155
01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:55,840
go all the way back uh uh well

2156
01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:57,280
maybe

2157
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:00,159
since the bible was written if we really

2158
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:03,280
take a a close look at it but it is part

2159
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:06,320
of uh popular culture

2160
01:39:11,109 --> 01:39:09,600
uh folklore myths legend the men in

2161
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,119
black have been around for a very long

2162
01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:13,679
time haven't they

2163
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,920
yeah i mean um

2164
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:17,760
i guess in one sense you know when the

2165
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:20,800
movies came out back in the 90s you know

2166
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:22,159
it was um

2167
01:39:26,950 --> 01:39:24,400
he once said it was a good thing because

2168
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:26,960
it demonstrated um

2169
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:30,000
the the phenomenon of the men in black

2170
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:33,840
to just about everybody and most people

2171
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:37,199
prior to that hadn't heard about the mib

2172
01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:40,239
um but in the movies you know the good

2173
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:44,480
fun but the um the approach um that was

2174
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:47,920
taken was that the mib were sort of like

2175
01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:51,440
secret agents wiping out dangerous

2176
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:54,639
aliens um but the reality is very

2177
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:56,480
different um

2178
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:00,080
i've written um three books um on the

2179
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:03,360
men in black and now and um and one on

2180
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:07,040
the women in black uh phenomenon and

2181
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:11,440
if you speak to practically 95 percent

2182
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,119
of everyone who's seen

2183
01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:15,920
the or been terrified by the men in

2184
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:18,719
black or the women in black um all of

2185
01:40:25,390 --> 01:40:21,440
them describe uh have them

2186
01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:25,400
uh looking really pale skinned um

2187
01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:28,639
emaciated a lot of them have bulging

2188
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:31,040
eyes with uh these wrap around

2189
01:40:36,629 --> 01:40:34,400
sunglasses uh designed to hide

2190
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:36,639
their eyes um

2191
01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:39,920
some of them seem to wear um

2192
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,679
bad fitting wigs and um

2193
01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:45,360
and they try and find

2194
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:48,080
uh get ways to get into the house which

2195
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:51,840
kind of paralyzed excuse me parallels

2196
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:55,920
the old stories of vampires you know

2197
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,040
you're not you cannot come in until you

2198
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:00,960
know you're invited that kind of

2199
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:02,320
scenario

2200
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:04,960
um so in reality

2201
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:09,440
the mib phenomenon again had these um

2202
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:13,199
occult and paranormal overtones attached

2203
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:16,159
to them now the guy who really

2204
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:19,280
um began the phenomenon was a guy named

2205
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:20,800
albert bender

2206
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:23,920
who lived in bridgeport connecticut

2207
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:25,840
and um

2208
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:30,080
and he was someone who um created a ufo

2209
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:32,320
um organization

2210
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:34,560
in um in the town

2211
01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:36,000
and um

2212
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:36,880
and he

2213
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:40,400
he's basically put this um organization

2214
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:41,600
together

2215
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:44,960
and a lot of people began to follow him

2216
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:48,239
and so on and it wasn't long afterwards

2217
01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:52,560
that uh one night um bender woke up

2218
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:54,080
and um

2219
01:41:57,990 --> 01:41:56,159
and felt ill

2220
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:58,000
and there was this

2221
01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:59,199
odor

2222
01:42:05,030 --> 01:42:02,000
of like sulfur um

2223
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:05,040
in the bedroom and again um

2224
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:08,080
sulfur is like a classic odor and that

2225
01:42:15,669 --> 01:42:13,830
numerous different stories you know in

2226
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:15,679
relation to the the world of the

2227
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:17,040
paranormal

2228
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:19,920
and he created this organization the

2229
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:22,719
international flying saucer bureau

2230
01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:25,199
and it all went well for a while

2231
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:26,080
um

2232
01:42:29,030 --> 01:42:26,880
but

2233
01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:29,040
what a lot of people don't know is that

2234
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:32,960
bender was also deep into the occult and

2235
01:42:37,109 --> 01:42:34,080
um

2236
01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:37,119
he was heavy on ouija boards

2237
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:40,719
and um alchemy he actually was someone

2238
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,520
who who knew just about everything about

2239
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:44,719
alchemy

2240
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:46,320
and um

2241
01:42:53,109 --> 01:42:49,440
and the more and more that um

2242
01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:53,119
bender continued to look into the

2243
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:56,560
men in black mystery the mib came to

2244
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:00,080
threaten him and eventually um just

2245
01:43:03,750 --> 01:43:02,880
after a few years bender albert bender

2246
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:03,760
quit

2247
01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:08,080
the ufo subject because he too began to

2248
01:43:11,109 --> 01:43:09,119
fall

2249
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:11,119
sick um

2250
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:13,199
paranoid um

2251
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:15,440
sort of um just

2252
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:17,840
just covered him yeah

2253
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,080
can i jump in and just make a comment

2254
01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:22,560
here um

2255
01:43:30,149 --> 01:43:26,480
is that uh one of the things about

2256
01:43:31,109 --> 01:43:30,159
uh albert bender uh for me that

2257
01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:31,119
uh

2258
01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:33,360
always needs to be pointed out

2259
01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:36,719
was that he he covered the phenomenon

2260
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:38,960
uh he wrote the book started an

2261
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,760
organization and and this was all in the

2262
01:43:45,910 --> 01:43:43,520
early 1950s

2263
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:45,920
the visitation

2264
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:49,280
that happened uh to him

2265
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:51,360
was in his home

2266
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:55,040
and he said that the men in black

2267
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:56,719
entered his home

2268
01:44:02,390 --> 01:43:58,480
through the walls

2269
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:02,400
right that's right and now but he didn't

2270
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:04,400
and they said to him

2271
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:07,760
shut your mouth right okay

2272
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:11,119
he doesn't speak about this for 10 years

2273
01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:14,000
he just drops out of sight it stops

2274
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:18,080
everything that he's doing and he had uh

2275
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:21,280
he had uh what's the word i want to use

2276
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:24,000
he had the poo poo scared out of him

2277
01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:25,040
and

2278
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,600
it was 10 years later this is a family

2279
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:29,280
show nick i i

2280
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:31,280
when you and i are private we'll use the

2281
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,159
right language but but here's the deal

2282
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:36,159
10 years later that's when he stepped

2283
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:37,280
out and said

2284
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:40,960
these guys dressed in black fedoras

2285
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:43,119
came through the walls and told me to

2286
01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:45,040
stop talking about ufos and the

2287
01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:47,360
phenomenon and he didn't disclose that

2288
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:49,600
for 10 years that's a very important

2289
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,239
point to bring out about albert he

2290
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,400
didn't he did not

2291
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,719
um uh how do i say that he didn't

2292
01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:59,440
sensationalize it he could have

2293
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,520
right what if he wrote a book on

2294
01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:03,199
you know beings that entered his house

2295
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:04,719
and told him to stop talking about the

2296
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:06,880
phenomena he didn't do that

2297
01:45:12,030 --> 01:45:10,639
he stayed silent for 10 years didn't he

2298
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:12,040
yeah and

2299
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:15,199
1962 he actually did do his own book

2300
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:19,040
flying sources and the three men um but

2301
01:45:25,430 --> 01:45:21,840
i bet you're right i mean he started

2302
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:25,440
into the ufo scene in the early 1950s

2303
01:45:30,830 --> 01:45:28,239
but then he got so terrified

2304
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:30,840
he didn't do really anything until

2305
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,320
1962. and if you read his book um albert

2306
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:36,560
bender's book flying saucers and the

2307
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:39,760
three men that comes across like um the

2308
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:42,719
x-files mates um

2309
01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:45,040
you know the exorcist or something like

2310
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:46,800
that you know

2311
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:48,000
um

2312
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:49,840
and i mean i'm not a i'm not

2313
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:52,239
exaggerating you know the it begins as

2314
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:54,159
like a ufo book

2315
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:54,880
but

2316
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,040
throughout the book you know that all

2317
01:46:01,750 --> 01:45:59,280
these aspects of the occult and the

2318
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:01,760
paranormal and as i said um

2319
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:04,400
you know he was heavily into alchemy and

2320
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:07,360
ouija boards and and he wasn't a dabbler

2321
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:10,400
you know he was someone who had a long

2322
01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:12,560
um

2323
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,639
knowledge of all these phenomena these

2324
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:15,920
phenomena

2325
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,920
and um so

2326
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:19,440
yeah the

2327
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:21,440
for me at least you know the for the

2328
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:22,880
whether it's the women in black or the

2329
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:25,199
men in black what fascinates me more

2330
01:46:28,149 --> 01:46:26,800
than anything else

2331
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:28,159
is how

2332
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:28,880
the

2333
01:46:39,669 --> 01:46:34,639
um

2334
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:39,679
presenting

2335
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:40,719
the

2336
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:49,920
could get from secret agents really

2337
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:52,719
how many how many examples

2338
01:46:57,510 --> 01:46:55,040
before you say countless because it's

2339
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:57,520
out there how many examples

2340
01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:00,719
are there of the men in black

2341
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,960
showing up at somebody's house

2342
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:03,760
and

2343
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:08,800
film

2344
01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:11,199
um any evidence that would be in the

2345
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:12,159
house

2346
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:14,960
and and just walking away and the people

2347
01:47:18,790 --> 01:47:16,800
that give up they

2348
01:47:21,430 --> 01:47:18,800
they don't fight it off

2349
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:21,440
right they'll tell the story later but

2350
01:47:27,910 --> 01:47:25,119
how many times has has this happened

2351
01:47:30,950 --> 01:47:27,920
well that does happen a lot actually and

2352
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:30,960
um and sometimes it's almost as if they

2353
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:34,000
do it i i won't say for fun but it was

2354
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:36,159
almost as if they've done it for a

2355
01:47:41,189 --> 01:47:38,800
deliberate reason i mean for example

2356
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:41,199
that probably the weirdest and creepiest

2357
01:47:45,350 --> 01:47:42,159
story

2358
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:45,360
um was presented by john keel who we

2359
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:47,920
talked about earlier and

2360
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:49,199
john keel

2361
01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:52,080
was told a story about a local

2362
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:55,360
journalist and uh mary hire

2363
01:48:01,910 --> 01:47:57,840
and she was working late one night and

2364
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:01,920
this weird creepy little black um suited

2365
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:03,679
guy

2366
01:48:08,629 --> 01:48:04,960
comes in

2367
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:08,639
and threatens her to leave all this mib

2368
01:48:12,070 --> 01:48:10,800
research alone

2369
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:12,080
and um

2370
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:16,480
and as as he's about to leave uh um

2371
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:19,040
excuse me where as she's about to leave

2372
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:21,760
um this mib comes in

2373
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:22,719
and

2374
01:48:34,470 --> 01:48:31,119
he's staring at this um

2375
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:34,480
ink pen just amazed at it

2376
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:37,199
as if he had no idea what a pen was but

2377
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:38,560
he looked at it

2378
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:42,159
um ran out the uh the door just almost

2379
01:48:44,470 --> 01:48:43,600
like giggling

2380
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:44,480
um

2381
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:46,320
and so there's a lot of really sort of

2382
01:48:51,189 --> 01:48:47,520
eerily

2383
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:51,199
odd stories along those lines of um

2384
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:53,360
of people having um

2385
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:56,239
items confiscated

2386
01:49:02,390 --> 01:48:59,679
have have you had uh in your research

2387
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,400
out there on location have you had uh a

2388
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:04,480
men in black experience that you can

2389
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:06,480
share

2390
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:09,600
um i've had some really weird phone

2391
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:12,719
calls like odd phone calls um

2392
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:15,599
you know in the dead at night and um

2393
01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:18,800
like what what happened what happened

2394
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:20,800
oh well when i was doing

2395
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:23,520
the best one i can think of and um and

2396
01:49:26,870 --> 01:49:25,840
bear in mind you know i'm very good with

2397
01:49:31,430 --> 01:49:26,880
um

2398
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:31,440
them out and all that kind of stuff but

2399
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:34,000
this was round about um

2400
01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:37,040
about 12 or 13 years ago when i was

2401
01:49:40,709 --> 01:49:38,960
still doing some of the research into

2402
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,719
the marilyn monroe

2403
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:42,400
slash ufo

2404
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:45,599
um story that circulates now and again

2405
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,800
and um and i've been some doing research

2406
01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:51,199
on the the marilyn story

2407
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:52,080
and

2408
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,639
in about 2am 2 a.m in the morning um

2409
01:50:00,790 --> 01:49:59,119
i could hear this blast in the phone the

2410
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:00,800
phone was ringing of course everybody

2411
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:03,119
you know the phone rings that rings out

2412
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:04,960
you know into the dead of nights you

2413
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:07,040
know everybody panics oh god what's

2414
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:09,119
happened you know everybody doesn't

2415
01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:10,719
matter where you are in the world but

2416
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:12,960
everybody thinks that you know

2417
01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:14,000
um

2418
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:22,480
like what i thought was static but it

2419
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:24,880
was that it wasn't static it was just so

2420
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:29,840
loud so um i pulled it away from the um

2421
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:32,960
the earphone for a moment and bear in

2422
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,760
mind this was research i was doing on on

2423
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:37,360
marilyn monroe

2424
01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:39,840
and you know that um

2425
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:42,960
the the song that um happy birthday that

2426
01:50:49,189 --> 01:50:46,400
marilyn sang to jfk

2427
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:49,199
yeah well whoever was on the other end

2428
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:51,920
of the line they had recorded it and

2429
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:54,480
they played it down my phone number at

2430
01:51:01,669 --> 01:50:59,669
and i'm not and i'm not exaggerating

2431
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:01,679
that was like 2 a.m

2432
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:03,280
and and the

2433
01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:08,320
recording of the jfk um marilyn

2434
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:11,119
happy birthday um singing

2435
01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:14,400
and um and he was just and this was um

2436
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:17,280
as i said this was right before um you

2437
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:18,639
know i was doing

2438
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:20,719
the the marilyn

2439
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:23,520
research and i felt i couldn't prove it

2440
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:26,719
but i felt that was some kind of weird

2441
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:30,320
subtle or less than subtle um

2442
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:32,400
you know threat if you like

2443
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:36,080
uh no caller id no caller id was it from

2444
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:40,149
no

2445
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:46,480
before um smartphones iphone this was

2446
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:49,360
this was wood at rainer band about

2447
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:52,719
2000 or 1999 i'd have to check up but it

2448
01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:53,840
was around

2449
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:55,199
in that

2450
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:58,639
period but that was kind of like a weird

2451
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:01,520
mib thing you know because in so many

2452
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:05,760
mib cases you know you have these mib

2453
01:52:11,109 --> 01:52:08,639
um leaving weird messages on the phone

2454
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:11,119
or or when they're around

2455
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:13,679
there's a lot of static in the phones as

2456
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:15,440
well as if you know there's a problem

2457
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:17,920
with the phones when the mib

2458
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:20,239
suddenly pop up so that that was a a

2459
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:24,000
really weird one um out of several

2460
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:27,199
i um i got a phone call you know in the

2461
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:29,520
movies when they whenever they show a

2462
01:52:36,229 --> 01:52:33,040
phone number it would be 555-1212

2463
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:36,239
right okay i got a phone call

2464
01:52:43,669 --> 01:52:37,280
came in

2465
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:47,510
and 202 is washington dc

2466
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,400
now who who could possibly have that

2467
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:52,560
phone number and why would they use it

2468
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:54,080
now i'm going to leave that right there

2469
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:56,960
that's for another show or a private

2470
01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:59,920
conversation but to

2471
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:00,960
have

2472
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:02,960
that phone number

2473
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,199
you've got a juice card

2474
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:07,520
right you've got you've got you've got

2475
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:08,400
some

2476
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:17,189
um but you just mentioned maryland and

2477
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:19,599
we're talking about men in black

2478
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:20,960
um

2479
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:23,920
and and everything being connected

2480
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:27,199
do you think uh that there is a

2481
01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:28,960
connection to the men in black

2482
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:32,400
maryland's death ufos jfk and again

2483
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:35,440
everything is connected

2484
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:36,239
well

2485
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:39,040
there's no doubt that um you can find a

2486
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:41,440
lot of ufo connections

2487
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:44,159
um with like things like jfk

2488
01:53:51,189 --> 01:53:47,679
and marilyn i mean we know that um

2489
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:51,199
marilyn had an affair with jfk

2490
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:52,159
um

2491
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:54,719
we also have you know most people have

2492
01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:56,800
seen it this um

2493
01:54:03,109 --> 01:53:58,960
controversial document

2494
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,119
um purported to be a cia document um

2495
01:54:09,109 --> 01:54:05,840
talking about marilyn and

2496
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:09,119
jfk and the ufo phenomenon

2497
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:10,159
um

2498
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:16,400
were involved in the jfk assassination

2499
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,400
um we're tied you know in relation to um

2500
01:54:26,229 --> 01:54:22,560
to ufos as well

2501
01:54:28,629 --> 01:54:26,239
um for example the the infamous maury

2502
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:28,639
island case of a

2503
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:31,119
of an alleged crashed ufo

2504
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:32,880
in um

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01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:35,760
on the west coast of the united states

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01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:36,719
um

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01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,000
now one of the guys who was involved in

2508
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:42,000
the in the story

2509
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:45,920
actually ended up being um being

2510
01:54:51,589 --> 01:54:49,119
threatened as one of the key figures who

2511
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,599
may have pla

2512
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:53,840
may have been one of the assassins of

2513
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:55,280
jfk

2514
01:54:58,709 --> 01:54:56,880
and you know

2515
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:58,719
you can't really get sort of

2516
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:01,040
sort of more closer you know when you're

2517
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:04,320
talking about putting things like jfk

2518
01:55:09,109 --> 01:55:06,800
and ufos together

2519
01:55:10,550 --> 01:55:09,119
um are you talking about uh fred

2520
01:55:12,870 --> 01:55:10,560
crissman

2521
01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:12,880
yeah fred yeah fred chrisman was a guy

2522
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:14,719
who lived on the

2523
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:18,800
west coast of the united states and um

2524
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:22,000
and fred chrisman uh was someone who had

2525
01:55:29,510 --> 01:55:25,440
a fascination uh with ufos because he'd

2526
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:29,520
had um it seemed like a squadron of ufos

2527
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:32,560
now i'll i'll sort of um you know sort

2528
01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:34,080
of um

2529
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:36,639
shortly down a little bit but chrisman

2530
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:39,280
um after jfk

2531
01:55:45,830 --> 01:55:42,239
uh was shot and killed later on

2532
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:45,840
uh chrisman was actually um

2533
01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:48,880
fingered if you like as being an

2534
01:55:52,550 --> 01:55:50,960
assassin

2535
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:52,560
of jfk

2536
01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:54,800
and um

2537
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:57,760
and that in itself you know is

2538
01:56:02,550 --> 01:55:59,040
just one

2539
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:02,560
fascinating um angle if you like yeah

2540
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:05,679
you cannot make up the story uh

2541
01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:08,639
uh behind fred chrisman

2542
01:56:15,030 --> 01:56:10,560
you cannot

2543
01:56:17,350 --> 01:56:15,040
crissman was a character in oliver

2544
01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:17,360
stone's film right

2545
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:18,880
uh jfk

2546
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:21,040
and if you back all of that up fred

2547
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:23,360
crissman was connected to hoover fred

2548
01:56:30,310 --> 01:56:26,000
chrisman was connected to the fbi

2549
01:56:31,189 --> 01:56:30,320
fred crissman was uh uh connected to

2550
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:31,199
uh

2551
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:34,080
diff i i there's not enough time for me

2552
01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:35,840
to get into it but

2553
01:56:39,430 --> 01:56:38,239
religious elements the catholic church

2554
01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:39,440
hoover

2555
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:43,360
and ufos and if you back up fred

2556
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:46,159
chrisman's history

2557
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,560
from jfk and before

2558
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:50,400
the original

2559
01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:53,040
ufo sighting in the united states in

2560
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:57,040
maury island in seattle washington and

2561
01:57:02,629 --> 01:56:59,520
the deaths of pilots and the crashing of

2562
01:57:05,189 --> 01:57:02,639
planes and the retrieval of of ufo

2563
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:05,199
debris that was fred crissman

2564
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:08,960
all the way all the way up and to

2565
01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:11,520
uh the jfk assassination

2566
01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:14,080
and right there if if people want to

2567
01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:16,239
know if stuff can be connected

2568
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:18,880
just look up fred crissman he is one of

2569
01:57:24,310 --> 01:57:22,320
the most uh intriguing figures in in the

2570
01:57:27,030 --> 01:57:24,320
history of the united states and and you

2571
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,040
can't make that up nick

2572
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,760
no you could not and i mean quickly um

2573
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,840
another guy

2574
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:34,239
when i say a guy a man named guy

2575
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:37,360
bannister guy banister was

2576
01:57:45,910 --> 01:57:41,599
an fbi agent um in the 1940s

2577
01:57:49,910 --> 01:57:45,920
through the 1950s and guy bannister was

2578
01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:49,920
also one of the first fbi agents

2579
01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:50,840
to

2580
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:55,520
investigate um flying saucer cases for j

2581
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:58,000
edgar hoover the director of the of the

2582
01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:59,280
fbi

2583
01:58:04,149 --> 01:58:00,320
um

2584
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:04,159
and if you know your history of the jfk

2585
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:06,480
assassination you'll know that guy

2586
01:58:13,430 --> 01:58:10,480
bannister was also fingered as one of

2587
01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:13,440
the assassins of jfk

2588
01:58:18,790 --> 01:58:16,239
and um that's another sort of classic

2589
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:18,800
example and and and guy bannister and

2590
01:58:23,350 --> 01:58:21,679
fred crissman were connected

2591
01:58:24,870 --> 01:58:23,360
and that's the other thing

2592
01:58:29,750 --> 01:58:24,880
that is

2593
01:58:31,830 --> 01:58:29,760
i mean when uh uh you look into uh

2594
01:58:32,830 --> 01:58:31,840
the history of ufos

2595
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:32,840
you get

2596
01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:34,719
into uh

2597
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:37,840
werner von braun operation paperclip

2598
01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:41,280
right the space program the space race

2599
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:42,639
with russia

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01:58:49,270 --> 01:58:45,679
ufo sightings uh the united states air

2601
01:58:51,830 --> 01:58:49,280
force the fbi jay edgar hoover the

2602
01:58:52,790 --> 01:58:51,840
assassination of jfk who are the two

2603
01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:52,800
guys

2604
01:58:58,149 --> 01:58:56,480
that just keep popping up from 1947 to

2605
01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:58,159
1963.

2606
01:59:01,990 --> 01:59:01,119
guy banister and fred christman

2607
01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:02,000
it's

2608
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:06,400
it is all connected i want to take a

2609
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:08,960
quick break here um i'm so happy that

2610
01:59:14,950 --> 01:59:12,560
you brought those two up and uh and and

2611
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:14,960
the story and the history of men in

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black and

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the

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how

2615
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:21,840
i want to say this right

2616
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:25,840
um the folklore the mythology uh behind

2617
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:28,400
ufos and what has been going on those

2618
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:31,440
two guys have been at the center of all

2619
01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:33,440
of it all the way across the united

2620
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:36,239
states their name pops up all the time

2621
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:38,239
and i just find that fascinating this is

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fade to black i'm yours jimmy church

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02:05:33,350 --> 02:05:31,520
welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight nick redfearn

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02:05:37,510 --> 02:05:35,440
is with us we're talking about our

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strange world

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strange indeed

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and next up nick um i want to talk about

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02:05:47,430 --> 02:05:44,960
ghosts

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02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:47,440
and uh the paranormal

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and when i

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when i say that everything is connected

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i'm not sure that i understand what

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02:05:59,510 --> 02:05:57,760
ghosts are today

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and what the paranormal really

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represents i used to growing up

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i thought ghosts were dead relatives

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right

2757
02:06:10,310 --> 02:06:07,840
but i'm not so sure

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02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:10,320
if if that is the case when when i bring

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up ghosts

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02:06:16,390 --> 02:06:13,599
what what what's your definition what do

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02:06:18,229 --> 02:06:16,400
you think is going on

2762
02:06:19,990 --> 02:06:18,239
well uh i mean

2763
02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:20,000
i'm not really someone who's done a lot

2764
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:22,400
of research into that

2765
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:24,560
area um

2766
02:06:28,950 --> 02:06:27,040
you know it's it's just something that

2767
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doesn't really sort of

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doesn't really kind of

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grab me

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really i guess he's the best way to say

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it

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02:06:40,310 --> 02:06:35,760
um

2773
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:40,320
you know i've sort of read things

2774
02:06:45,270 --> 02:06:42,800
along that path but um

2775
02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:45,280
but really ghost hunt since not really

2776
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my thing um i don't know why yeah

2777
02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:51,840
that's a that's a great uh opportunity

2778
02:07:01,589 --> 02:06:57,990
well um

2779
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:01,599
well i i'm not really sure why but

2780
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:03,520
sometimes i just get bored with these

2781
02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:05,199
shows you know where they're all in the

2782
02:07:10,390 --> 02:07:07,520
buildings and um

2783
02:07:12,069 --> 02:07:10,400
you know with an infrared and whatever

2784
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:12,079
and um

2785
02:07:18,310 --> 02:07:14,880
and there's nothing new really well

2786
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:18,320
i i i i'm approaching this from another

2787
02:07:21,270 --> 02:07:19,840
side though

2788
02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:21,280
in that

2789
02:07:24,470 --> 02:07:23,599
could the phenomena

2790
02:07:27,350 --> 02:07:24,480
uh

2791
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:27,360
entities spirits ghosts

2792
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:28,639
um

2793
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:30,960
could we be off target

2794
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:31,760
and

2795
02:07:36,069 --> 02:07:33,440
could this be something else not only

2796
02:07:37,270 --> 02:07:36,079
interdimensional uh could it be time

2797
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:37,280
travelers

2798
02:07:41,910 --> 02:07:39,280
uh could it be

2799
02:07:43,109 --> 02:07:41,920
something else that you know we are

2800
02:07:44,629 --> 02:07:43,119
looking at

2801
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:44,639
or looking for

2802
02:07:48,950 --> 02:07:46,400
the easy answers

2803
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:48,960
and it may not be that it may be

2804
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:51,679
something else entirely and i that is my

2805
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:57,750
well

2806
02:08:02,149 --> 02:08:00,079
it's sort of i don't it's hard to say

2807
02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:02,159
for me you know when it comes to you

2808
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:04,480
know things like ghosts and things like

2809
02:08:10,149 --> 02:08:06,880
that but because i haven't really done

2810
02:08:15,109 --> 02:08:10,159
you know read much on it or sort of um

2811
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:17,589
but um you know i've sort of

2812
02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:20,480
spent most of my time sort of on crypto

2813
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:22,000
zoology

2814
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:25,520
ufology and some aspects of um

2815
02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:29,360
conspiracies as well yeah and uh and and

2816
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:33,360
what about time travel um and and that

2817
02:08:39,830 --> 02:08:37,440
part of things too as well um when i

2818
02:08:40,870 --> 02:08:39,840
talk about our strange world

2819
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:40,880
um

2820
02:08:46,629 --> 02:08:43,760
time travel seems to be one of the most

2821
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:46,639
romantic things that we can talk about

2822
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:48,639
everybody wants to travel

2823
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:52,400
back into the past or go into the future

2824
02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:55,920
but we don't actually know or have proof

2825
02:09:00,229 --> 02:08:59,040
of of time travel being a reality is it

2826
02:09:02,709 --> 02:09:00,239
because

2827
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:02,719
time travelers are somebody that we may

2828
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:05,760
not be able to necessarily see

2829
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,719
um

2830
02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:08,800
what do you make of that

2831
02:09:13,910 --> 02:09:10,880
well i mean time travel is an

2832
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:13,920
interesting aspect to me i wrote a book

2833
02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:16,719
actually called time travel

2834
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:19,679
and um not not the greatest title but

2835
02:09:23,430 --> 02:09:22,400
it's uh it works you know

2836
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:23,440
um

2837
02:09:30,310 --> 02:09:27,199
i think you know there's different

2838
02:09:33,270 --> 02:09:30,320
aspects of time travel you know you've

2839
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:33,280
got the classic angle in like a

2840
02:09:38,390 --> 02:09:35,360
hollywood movie you know where they'd

2841
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:38,400
get in the delorean or whatever and go

2842
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:39,199
back

2843
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:42,000
you know to 20 years

2844
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:44,719
ahead or behind that kind of angle

2845
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:47,840
however you know i would say and i talk

2846
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:50,000
about this in the book i i would say

2847
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:51,520
that um

2848
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:55,119
time travel you know can be demonstrated

2849
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:57,599
in many ways for example a lot of people

2850
02:10:01,910 --> 02:09:59,280
over the years have had sort of

2851
02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:01,920
prophetic dreams you know they dream of

2852
02:10:06,390 --> 02:10:02,960
something

2853
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:06,400
um say tomorrow and five days later

2854
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:07,679
something

2855
02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:11,280
almost identical happens now that is an

2856
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:15,280
example of time being altered you know

2857
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:17,920
so you know you don't need a time

2858
02:10:21,430 --> 02:10:19,199
machine

2859
02:10:22,550 --> 02:10:21,440
you know to demonstrate

2860
02:10:26,069 --> 02:10:22,560
um

2861
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:26,079
some degree of time travel you know and

2862
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:28,639
um and i think that's

2863
02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:30,480
a fascinating

2864
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,400
aspect um the idea of um

2865
02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:37,119
you know having prophetic dreams and

2866
02:10:40,629 --> 02:10:38,400
they come true

2867
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:40,639
ten days down the line that actually

2868
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:43,440
happened um at point pleasant west

2869
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:46,960
virginia in december

2870
02:10:49,750 --> 02:10:48,800
1967

2871
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:49,760
um

2872
02:10:57,109 --> 02:10:52,960
when the bridge collapsed at point

2873
02:10:58,229 --> 02:10:57,119
pleasant um in the lead-up to when that

2874
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:58,239
happened

2875
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:01,440
a number of people um had these

2876
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:04,239
prophetic dreams um

2877
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:07,360
of people of this huge disaster at point

2878
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:09,760
pleasant so and of course it happened

2879
02:11:15,589 --> 02:11:12,639
you know where the the mothman was seen

2880
02:11:18,709 --> 02:11:15,599
um a point pleasant um

2881
02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:18,719
i think it was 46 people were drowned

2882
02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:20,159
and

2883
02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:20,960
so

2884
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:22,239
i think

2885
02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:25,760
in some way we are able to

2886
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:28,800
move maneuver through time

2887
02:11:33,589 --> 02:11:30,880
um but it doesn't have to be

2888
02:11:36,629 --> 02:11:33,599
need to be you know on some sort of cool

2889
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:36,639
metallic device where you jump inside

2890
02:11:42,069 --> 02:11:38,400
but somehow

2891
02:11:44,950 --> 02:11:42,079
our minds can um actually

2892
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:44,960
um time travel as well so i think that's

2893
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:47,920
an intriguing aspect too

2894
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:48,800
the

2895
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:50,320
um

2896
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:52,560
the

2897
02:12:01,830 --> 02:11:56,880
just going directly at this

2898
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:01,840
is is pretty easy we can do it today

2899
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:03,760
right we don't need like you said we

2900
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:05,440
don't need a time machine you just need

2901
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:08,560
a spaceship to travel away from earth

2902
02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:10,000
and then come back

2903
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:12,000
and when you get back to earth you're

2904
02:12:15,510 --> 02:12:13,920
going to be in the future depending on

2905
02:12:17,189 --> 02:12:15,520
how long you're gone how fast you're

2906
02:12:19,589 --> 02:12:17,199
traveling

2907
02:12:21,430 --> 02:12:19,599
that dictates how much time is going to

2908
02:12:24,149 --> 02:12:21,440
pass here on earth

2909
02:12:27,910 --> 02:12:24,159
so if you and i did that today nick

2910
02:12:31,669 --> 02:12:27,920
and and we took off and we came back

2911
02:12:34,870 --> 02:12:31,679
500 if today we did this in 2022

2912
02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:34,880
and we come back 500 years in the future

2913
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:36,000
um

2914
02:12:40,709 --> 02:12:38,800
and we ask have you guys uh

2915
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:40,719
figured out time travel yet they said

2916
02:12:44,790 --> 02:12:41,599
yes

2917
02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:44,800
well we would like to go back to 2022.

2918
02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:46,000
okay

2919
02:12:52,629 --> 02:12:49,520
if you and i then came back to 2022 from

2920
02:12:55,350 --> 02:12:52,639
500 years in the future

2921
02:12:56,550 --> 02:12:55,360
why wouldn't we have evidence of that

2922
02:13:00,550 --> 02:12:56,560
or

2923
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:00,560
would we come back and we simply are not

2924
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:03,199
part of this timeline

2925
02:13:05,990 --> 02:13:05,280
right we could see it we could witness

2926
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:06,000
it

2927
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:09,199
but we may not be able to participate

2928
02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:11,280
and that's the part of time travel that

2929
02:13:17,589 --> 02:13:14,560
i i swear i'm just perplexed

2930
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:17,599
by that aspect of it why we wouldn't see

2931
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:22,480
evidence of time travelers now today

2932
02:13:28,390 --> 02:13:24,880
well yeah i mean this kind of

2933
02:13:29,589 --> 02:13:28,400
sort of um goes down the path of you

2934
02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:29,599
know how

2935
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:33,280
time may be um you know if you try and

2936
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:36,880
time travel um maybe you'll be you'll be

2937
02:13:41,750 --> 02:13:40,239
prevented from doing this or doing that

2938
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:41,760
right or maybe

2939
02:13:43,589 --> 02:13:42,719
maybe

2940
02:13:48,950 --> 02:13:43,599
the

2941
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:48,960
from happening you know i think that's

2942
02:13:51,830 --> 02:13:50,159
kind of

2943
02:13:54,629 --> 02:13:51,840
an interesting

2944
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:54,639
angle and another aspect that's

2945
02:14:00,709 --> 02:13:58,400
intriguing as well is that um i've i've

2946
02:14:03,350 --> 02:14:00,719
spoken to several people who thought

2947
02:14:06,550 --> 02:14:03,360
that um they felt that perhaps the the

2948
02:14:09,830 --> 02:14:06,560
men in black were time travelers and um

2949
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:09,840
and sometimes they pop up when there are

2950
02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:13,040
sort of critical events and maybe

2951
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:14,639
they're actually the good guys rather

2952
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:17,360
bad guys and and they really they're the

2953
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:20,000
good guys and they're trying to put the

2954
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:23,199
uh the time back in this um

2955
02:14:28,550 --> 02:14:24,840
it's linear

2956
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:28,560
um approach if you like uh like uh time

2957
02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:31,360
police if you will

2958
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:34,320
yes exactly but we view them as as the

2959
02:14:39,589 --> 02:14:37,520
bad guys but you know the irony is that

2960
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:39,599
maybe they're really the good guys but

2961
02:14:42,790 --> 02:14:40,560
they're trying

2962
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:42,800
they might be a bit of hard-handed but

2963
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:46,000
they're trying to prevent from um

2964
02:14:50,550 --> 02:14:47,440
you know certain

2965
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:50,560
events in time from being stopped or

2966
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:52,400
maybe they

2967
02:15:00,069 --> 02:14:56,480
they have to not prevent it they have to

2968
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:00,079
just leave it alone because if we change

2969
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:03,599
it uh deliberately you know it could

2970
02:15:10,470 --> 02:15:06,159
create an even bigger disaster or

2971
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:10,480
whatever is is the mandela effect uh an

2972
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:13,840
example of of time travelers changing

2973
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:15,840
the past

2974
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:18,159
yes i think yes

2975
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:20,320
i could probably answer that one in this

2976
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:23,520
yeah in a second yeah i think there's

2977
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:25,360
and i think the you know the mandela

2978
02:15:30,390 --> 02:15:26,320
issue

2979
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:30,400
you know you've got portals doorways uh

2980
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:31,920
black holes

2981
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:33,040
um

2982
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,000
and

2983
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:36,400
prophetic dreams the

2984
02:15:42,069 --> 02:15:39,280
i think this is important because time

2985
02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:42,079
travel isn't just one thing

2986
02:15:49,669 --> 02:15:45,520
you know it can be achieved i think in

2987
02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:49,679
multiple ways and um and that in alone

2988
02:15:56,550 --> 02:15:52,480
you know it's fascinating

2989
02:15:57,589 --> 02:15:56,560
with uh with the mandela effect i i find

2990
02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:57,599
it

2991
02:16:03,510 --> 02:16:00,880
uh pretty convincing that

2992
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:03,520
millions and millions of people remember

2993
02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:05,520
the past

2994
02:16:12,950 --> 02:16:07,520
exactly the same

2995
02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:14,790
that's right yeah

2996
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:18,639
i mean the one i like the the most um

2997
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:21,280
you know the the uh the photograph of

2998
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:22,719
the thunderbird

2999
02:16:28,390 --> 02:16:26,480
um this giant thunderbird um

3000
02:16:31,270 --> 02:16:28,400
that a lot many people in the field of

3001
02:16:36,230 --> 02:16:31,280
cryptozoology have said they've seen

3002
02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:36,240
this photograph of a gigantic bird um

3003
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:37,280
that was

3004
02:16:45,030 --> 02:16:41,679
seen in various magazines in the 1960s

3005
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:45,040
and now no one can find the magazines no

3006
02:16:47,910 --> 02:16:46,960
one can find the picture

3007
02:16:50,629 --> 02:16:47,920
but

3008
02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:50,639
everybody in the arena if you like

3009
02:16:55,669 --> 02:16:53,439
remembers it they remember the picture

3010
02:16:58,870 --> 02:16:55,679
they remember reading the story they

3011
02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:58,880
remember the photograph in the magazine

3012
02:17:04,150 --> 02:17:01,519
no one can find any part of it today

3013
02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:04,160
it's it's kind of like in back to the

3014
02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:05,439
future when

3015
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:06,399
um

3016
02:17:15,589 --> 02:17:12,000
and he's in his photograph starts to

3017
02:17:17,750 --> 02:17:15,599
vanish from the photo you know i had uh

3018
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:17,760
i had the same experience i've talked

3019
02:17:22,870 --> 02:17:20,080
about this before on the air

3020
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:22,880
um and i can't explain this nick but

3021
02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:25,679
this is what happened fourth grade

3022
02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:28,719
fourth grade i'm in chicago and our

3023
02:17:35,669 --> 02:17:32,960
class is going to the field museum which

3024
02:17:37,750 --> 02:17:35,679
is the natural history museum in chicago

3025
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:37,760
it's big it's nice

3026
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:42,240
and uh i got a brochure fourth grade and

3027
02:17:47,429 --> 02:17:45,280
on the front of the brochure

3028
02:17:49,429 --> 02:17:47,439
and it was it's more like a little mini

3029
02:17:53,669 --> 02:17:49,439
magazine but on the front of it

3030
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,679
is a giant as a skeleton of a giant

3031
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:54,960
human

3032
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:58,319
and it said uh and i remember reading

3033
02:18:00,870 --> 02:17:59,840
the whole thing and

3034
02:18:04,389 --> 02:18:00,880
uh

3035
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,399
at that ten foot tall human skeleton you

3036
02:18:07,589 --> 02:18:06,319
know at the field museum and i was all

3037
02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:07,599
excited

3038
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:11,519
uh to go and and see this skeleton

3039
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:13,439
it doesn't exist

3040
02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:14,479
today

3041
02:18:19,669 --> 02:18:16,880
i have tried to find any reference to

3042
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:19,679
the field museum in chicago with giant

3043
02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:21,439
human skeletons

3044
02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:23,040
zero reference

3045
02:18:28,709 --> 02:18:24,719
but i

3046
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:28,719
held it in my hand right i saw it

3047
02:18:34,790 --> 02:18:32,319
and and i was excited and i cannot find

3048
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:34,800
any reference to it at all today none

3049
02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:36,960
none it doesn't exist

3050
02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:39,120
and and i didn't make it up i didn't

3051
02:18:43,030 --> 02:18:40,399
dream it

3052
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:43,040
uh this was a real event in my life that

3053
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:44,800
i was excited for

3054
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:48,399
and and today field museum chicago giant

3055
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:52,800
skeletons no never happened

3056
02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:55,920
no that that's a perfect example and and

3057
02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:58,080
and if anybody wants to learn more about

3058
02:19:02,469 --> 02:19:00,800
the the whole mandela phenomenon you

3059
02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:02,479
know i think um

3060
02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:04,840
if you if you google

3061
02:19:11,589 --> 02:19:08,559
thunderbird um photograph missing

3062
02:19:14,389 --> 02:19:11,599
you'll you'll find a bunch of articles

3063
02:19:15,270 --> 02:19:14,399
that talk about how so many people have

3064
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:15,280
seen

3065
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,319
this photograph back in the 60s and

3066
02:19:23,349 --> 02:19:20,719
people have looked and

3067
02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:23,359
you know look here they're all over the

3068
02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:26,080
place and yet no one despite going

3069
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:28,399
through all the magazines and newspapers

3070
02:19:34,870 --> 02:19:31,840
everybody remembers but that with those

3071
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:34,880
images in their minds are no longer

3072
02:19:39,270 --> 02:19:38,080
there and again the big question is how

3073
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:39,280
and why

3074
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:40,479
should those

3075
02:19:44,549 --> 02:19:42,880
events happen to some people but but not

3076
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:44,559
to others you know

3077
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:46,960
with the um the photographs that you're

3078
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:49,920
talking about and we've all seen them

3079
02:19:54,309 --> 02:19:52,080
you know the the dudes are standing

3080
02:19:56,790 --> 02:19:54,319
around holding the wings out right

3081
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:56,800
they're like in front of a barn

3082
02:20:02,389 --> 02:19:59,680
um and it's a thunderbird almost looks

3083
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:02,399
like a pterodactyl right it's ginormous

3084
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:03,760
it's big

3085
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:06,640
um and those photographs

3086
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:09,600
were distributed before obviously before

3087
02:20:15,670 --> 02:20:13,120
computers and and photoshop

3088
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:15,680
the photographs themselves have they

3089
02:20:21,670 --> 02:20:19,600
ever been authenticated is there uh

3090
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:21,680
you know is there a vetting process

3091
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:23,600
where we can chase that back to where

3092
02:20:27,990 --> 02:20:26,319
those photographs even originated forget

3093
02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,000
about the magazines and the mandela

3094
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:30,399
effect and i totally get that but but

3095
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:32,800
what about prior to that you know were

3096
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:36,720
they ever in a newspaper in the 1900s

3097
02:20:43,510 --> 02:20:39,760
they looked po the guys are posing with

3098
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:43,520
these images are i mean with these birds

3099
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:46,479
well basically what it comes down to

3100
02:20:50,950 --> 02:20:49,680
what it comes down to jimmy is that what

3101
02:20:56,870 --> 02:20:50,960
we have

3102
02:20:59,670 --> 02:20:56,880
based um like like mock top

3103
02:21:01,830 --> 02:20:59,680
pictures of the original ones you know

3104
02:21:04,950 --> 02:21:01,840
people have said this is what we saw you

3105
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:04,960
know back in 1920 or whatever and people

3106
02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:07,439
have sort of restored them or something

3107
02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:10,319
along those lines if you like but the

3108
02:21:14,309 --> 02:21:13,040
but the original ones have never been

3109
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:14,319
found no

3110
02:21:19,990 --> 02:21:17,040
but but people haven't people have made

3111
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:20,000
versions not not as hoaxes but to

3112
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:21,280
demonstrate

3113
02:21:28,150 --> 02:21:25,600
you know as as to um how they look now

3114
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:28,160
yeah i've i've always been fascinated

3115
02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:31,120
with that because and it's not just

3116
02:21:36,389 --> 02:21:34,640
um i saw just recently in the in the

3117
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:36,399
last couple of days

3118
02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:40,810
um an article from 19

3119
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:42,880
[Music]

3120
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:45,840
uh 1901 new mexico

3121
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:48,960
um and this rancher

3122
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:53,280
found a giant skeleton on his property

3123
02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:55,920
and on you know recover took a picture

3124
02:22:00,790 --> 02:21:58,720
of it that made it into i believe the

3125
02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:00,800
new york times is where i saw the

3126
02:22:05,670 --> 02:22:03,600
article and that the the you know a

3127
02:22:06,469 --> 02:22:05,680
couple of universities were going out to

3128
02:22:08,870 --> 02:22:06,479
do

3129
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:08,880
an archaeological dig and that yes

3130
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:11,280
indeed there were dozens of these giant

3131
02:22:15,750 --> 02:22:12,720
skeletons that were found on the

3132
02:22:17,910 --> 02:22:15,760
property the picture is clearly there

3133
02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:17,920
you go to find any evidence of this in

3134
02:22:22,710 --> 02:22:20,240
the media after that it doesn't exist

3135
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:22,720
but the article did pop up in the new

3136
02:22:27,830 --> 02:22:26,080
york times after that squashed is that

3137
02:22:30,230 --> 02:22:27,840
the mandela effect or is that the

3138
02:22:34,950 --> 02:22:30,240
smithsonian right

3139
02:22:37,590 --> 02:22:34,960
stepping in and and bearing this story

3140
02:22:40,710 --> 02:22:37,600
yeah and don't forget as well um in the

3141
02:22:44,230 --> 02:22:40,720
rendelsham case you know that when jim

3142
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:44,240
peniston said that um he felt that um

3143
02:22:49,670 --> 02:22:46,640
that the the so-called aliens that

3144
02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:49,680
landed in rendelsham forest but um he

3145
02:22:53,830 --> 02:22:51,520
said that he felt that they were

3146
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,840
actually time travelers

3147
02:22:56,630 --> 02:22:55,600
is it wasn't that the download the

3148
02:22:58,230 --> 02:22:56,640
download

3149
02:23:01,270 --> 02:22:58,240
told him that

3150
02:23:02,630 --> 02:23:01,280
they weren't at et's yes right that's

3151
02:23:06,230 --> 02:23:02,640
correct yeah

3152
02:23:07,910 --> 02:23:06,240
yeah they in in in your book

3153
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:07,920
you wrote that that might have been a

3154
02:23:13,230 --> 02:23:11,280
psychological experiment

3155
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:13,240
yeah i mean there's i mean

3156
02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:16,080
unfortunately you know rendelsham

3157
02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:18,880
you know has as many theories as as

3158
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:22,479
roswell does you know and i'm not sure

3159
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:23,439
um

3160
02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:25,359
you know we'll ever get the answers and

3161
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,399
i also think that some of the theories

3162
02:23:32,630 --> 02:23:31,120
that have been inserted by government

3163
02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:32,640
agencies to

3164
02:23:37,429 --> 02:23:35,520
basically sort of um

3165
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:37,439
you know mess everything up so nobody

3166
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:40,479
really knows what the true answer is you

3167
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:43,920
know but um so that's why you know there

3168
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:47,040
have been so many books about rendlesham

3169
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:48,479
and

3170
02:23:52,550 --> 02:23:49,680
many of them

3171
02:23:54,309 --> 02:23:52,560
um a lot different to each other and and

3172
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:54,319
i think somewhere

3173
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:55,439
in the

3174
02:24:01,190 --> 02:23:59,200
you know is is the real story um

3175
02:24:05,110 --> 02:24:01,200
but with multiple

3176
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:05,120
um stories seeded into the ufo community

3177
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:07,520
if you like uh we have to be careful as

3178
02:24:13,750 --> 02:24:10,080
to you know which is the real one and

3179
02:24:16,309 --> 02:24:13,760
which is the one to um push us

3180
02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:16,319
you know the wrong way or whatever what

3181
02:24:20,630 --> 02:24:19,200
i what i find interesting uh today nick

3182
02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:20,640
and i'm sure you thought about this

3183
02:24:25,190 --> 02:24:21,840
yourself

3184
02:24:28,550 --> 02:24:25,200
is with the focus like with the ufo

3185
02:24:30,389 --> 02:24:28,560
hearings that we had back in may um ufo

3186
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:30,399
hearing i should say

3187
02:24:38,389 --> 02:24:34,560
with the focus being on military cases

3188
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:38,399
right 2004 nimitz the 144 sightings the

3189
02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:40,319
other 40 uh

3190
02:24:47,110 --> 02:24:43,840
air force pilots navy pilots and

3191
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:47,120
uh what the military is experiencing

3192
02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:49,280
with ufos and uaps

3193
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:50,160
why

3194
02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:52,720
isn't there any discussion

3195
02:24:56,630 --> 02:24:54,399
about rendelsham

3196
02:24:59,110 --> 02:24:56,640
where we've got a complete military

3197
02:25:01,830 --> 02:24:59,120
history documented right

3198
02:25:03,830 --> 02:25:01,840
i i i don't understand that part why

3199
02:25:06,469 --> 02:25:03,840
they don't want to go

3200
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:06,479
and discuss rendelsham but they'll talk

3201
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:09,040
about these modern military sightings

3202
02:25:12,630 --> 02:25:11,280
but the biggest military case besides

3203
02:25:15,510 --> 02:25:12,640
roswell

3204
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:15,520
is rendell shim and it's right there why

3205
02:25:20,469 --> 02:25:18,640
why are they scared about uh uh

3206
02:25:23,190 --> 02:25:20,479
talking about rendell shim and that

3207
02:25:27,110 --> 02:25:24,710
well i mean

3208
02:25:30,550 --> 02:25:27,120
i mean i'm speculating but

3209
02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:30,560
my specul speculations would be

3210
02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:33,280
inca maybe that there's

3211
02:25:38,630 --> 02:25:36,080
some data that's still being withheld

3212
02:25:40,469 --> 02:25:38,640
you know from things like rendelsham

3213
02:25:43,030 --> 02:25:40,479
and that um

3214
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:43,040
and maybe there's something that the

3215
02:25:47,670 --> 02:25:45,359
thing that isn't being withheld

3216
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:47,680
maybe that's something that

3217
02:25:51,110 --> 02:25:49,200
certain people

3218
02:25:53,590 --> 02:25:51,120
don't want but they might that they

3219
02:25:56,710 --> 02:25:53,600
might not worry too much about lights in

3220
02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:56,720
the sky but they might be very concerned

3221
02:26:04,550 --> 02:26:00,800
about something that um takes the story

3222
02:26:06,550 --> 02:26:04,560
to a different level so i think

3223
02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:06,560
you know we can never sort of really be

3224
02:26:10,790 --> 02:26:09,120
sure as to where the story ends you know

3225
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,800
or if uh

3226
02:26:15,349 --> 02:26:12,479
or if the story

3227
02:26:17,190 --> 02:26:15,359
is a story you know created to protect

3228
02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:17,200
the real story

3229
02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:19,520
now uh before i let you go i wanted to

3230
02:26:23,030 --> 02:26:21,280
mention um

3231
02:26:24,389 --> 02:26:23,040
i'll let you take it as far as you want

3232
02:26:27,349 --> 02:26:24,399
to take it but you've got a new book

3233
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:27,359
coming out uh september 1st you're going

3234
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:29,680
to be back on fade to black and we'll

3235
02:26:34,150 --> 02:26:32,560
announce uh the the release and it's

3236
02:26:35,030 --> 02:26:34,160
going to be exciting and we'll do all of

3237
02:26:37,830 --> 02:26:35,040
that

3238
02:26:42,389 --> 02:26:37,840
um but you don't necessarily

3239
02:26:45,429 --> 02:26:42,399
uh uh deal with ufos all the time and

3240
02:26:47,270 --> 02:26:45,439
and and mothman right a bigfoot of

3241
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:47,280
crypto men in black

3242
02:26:50,870 --> 02:26:49,200
this is a different this is a different

3243
02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:50,880
type of book for you can you tell us

3244
02:26:56,469 --> 02:26:52,720
about it

3245
02:26:58,950 --> 02:26:56,479
well yeah um the book basically you know

3246
02:27:02,230 --> 02:26:58,960
if you look all around the world various

3247
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:02,240
places you know we've got these gigantic

3248
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:05,200
structures you know whether it's easter

3249
02:27:10,790 --> 02:27:06,560
island

3250
02:27:13,349 --> 02:27:10,800
egypt um balbeck in the middle east you

3251
02:27:14,830 --> 02:27:13,359
know these these terrifically gigantic

3252
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:14,840
stones

3253
02:27:20,870 --> 02:27:18,560
um you know sort of a thousand tons and

3254
02:27:23,190 --> 02:27:20,880
i'm not exaggerating some of them you

3255
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:23,200
know and the big question is

3256
02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:27,200
how could these stones have been moved

3257
02:27:32,790 --> 02:27:30,880
um at such um distances

3258
02:27:33,910 --> 02:27:32,800
and to such heights

3259
02:27:37,670 --> 02:27:33,920
and

3260
02:27:38,950 --> 02:27:37,680
incredible

3261
02:27:42,150 --> 02:27:38,960
weights

3262
02:27:45,590 --> 02:27:42,160
how back thousands of years ago

3263
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:45,600
how were we able to if it wasn't

3264
02:27:48,950 --> 02:27:46,479
um

3265
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:48,960
how was it done you know how was that

3266
02:27:53,750 --> 02:27:52,720
process achieved and so the book is a

3267
02:27:58,030 --> 02:27:53,760
study

3268
02:28:02,790 --> 02:27:58,040
of the possibility of uh the likes of

3269
02:28:05,510 --> 02:28:02,800
anti-gravity in the distant past um

3270
02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:05,520
finding ways to

3271
02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:08,800
effectively um find ways

3272
02:28:12,389 --> 02:28:10,240
back in in

3273
02:28:14,710 --> 02:28:12,399
ancient times possibly

3274
02:28:17,910 --> 02:28:14,720
people back then or extraterrestrials

3275
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:17,920
i'm i'm sort of ambiguous um

3276
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:20,960
on either side because i'm not 100 sure

3277
02:28:25,349 --> 02:28:24,399
you know but i think um in the distant

3278
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:25,359
past

3279
02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:28,800
somebody or something had the ability

3280
02:28:35,990 --> 02:28:29,760
to

3281
02:28:36,180 --> 02:28:36,000
and we have either lost

3282
02:28:37,990 --> 02:28:36,190
the

3283
02:28:40,469 --> 02:28:38,000
[Music]

3284
02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:40,479
the way this was done or

3285
02:28:46,309 --> 02:28:43,120
it has been deliberately hidden

3286
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:46,319
um but whatever the answer is um that's

3287
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:49,760
the theme of the of the book um looking

3288
02:28:56,870 --> 02:28:53,520
at the issue of anti-gravity and

3289
02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:56,880
gigantic ancient stones i can't wait for

3290
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:00,160
the release my man i i i can't i can't i

3291
02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:02,560
mean i i get them all in advance and

3292
02:29:06,830 --> 02:29:04,319
this is the one where i'm checking my

3293
02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:06,840
mailbox every day

3294
02:29:12,469 --> 02:29:10,479
[Laughter]

3295
02:29:15,429 --> 02:29:12,479
you're the very best man thank you so

3296
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:15,439
much another great conversation and and

3297
02:29:21,990 --> 02:29:18,640
i i will have you back september 1st

3298
02:29:23,830 --> 02:29:22,000
uh to celebrate the release of this book

3299
02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:23,840
i'm looking forward to it

3300
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:25,840
and uh thank you for everything you're

3301
02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:27,760
the best thank you nick

3302
02:29:32,309 --> 02:29:29,520
all right thanks a lot jimmy see you

3303
02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:32,319
later you're the best nick redfearn and

3304
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,560
like i said we will have

3305
02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:36,479
nick on the show

3306
02:29:41,429 --> 02:29:39,520
uh september 1st to announce uh the

3307
02:29:44,309 --> 02:29:41,439
release and the publish

3308
02:29:48,070 --> 02:29:44,319
uh the publishing of his new book about

3309
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:48,080
any gravity and megalithic structures

3310
02:29:52,230 --> 02:29:50,000
this is fade to black i am your host

3311
02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:52,240
jimmy church what a great show tonight

3312
02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:54,960
i'm gonna open up the phone lines uh so

3313
02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:58,640
when we come back and let me see here

3314
02:30:02,469 --> 02:30:01,200
let me get this going

3315
02:30:04,309 --> 02:30:02,479
there it is

3316
02:30:10,160 --> 02:30:04,319
this is fade to black i'll be right back

3317
02:30:12,740 --> 02:30:11,450
[Music]

3318
02:30:20,710 --> 02:30:12,750
[Applause]

3319
02:30:24,389 --> 02:30:22,870
you're listening to jimmy church and

3320
02:30:29,349 --> 02:30:24,399
fade to black

3321
02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:31,750
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3322
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:34,560
you are listening to my boy jimmy church

3323
02:30:45,990 --> 02:30:41,429
despite popular opinion

3324
02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:46,000
reading a book will not make you smarter

3325
02:30:54,710 --> 02:30:51,590
hello fader knots jimmy church here

3326
02:30:57,030 --> 02:30:54,720
you've seen me with my thunderstorm now

3327
02:30:59,270 --> 02:30:57,040
you can purify the air in your home and

3328
02:31:01,590 --> 02:30:59,280
get healthy clean fresh smelling air and

3329
02:31:03,510 --> 02:31:01,600
eliminate odors just like i do right

3330
02:31:06,070 --> 02:31:03,520
here in the bunker the eden pier

3331
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:06,080
thunderstorm uses oxy technology that

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[Music]

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02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:13,990
welcome back fade to black i am your

3417
02:35:17,830 --> 02:35:15,840
host jimmy church i want to thank nick

3418
02:35:20,070 --> 02:35:17,840
redfern for uh

3419
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:20,080
another great show and an excellent

3420
02:35:24,070 --> 02:35:21,680
conversation

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02:35:27,510 --> 02:35:24,080
and uh we'll have nick back september

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02:35:30,309 --> 02:35:27,520
1st when the book goes into worldwide

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release and we will talk about it

3424
02:35:37,349 --> 02:35:32,560
and there you go now i've opened up the

3425
02:35:41,190 --> 02:35:39,110
or

3426
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:41,200
seven five nine six nine five got a

3427
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:43,600
bunch of calls on hold and also calls

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02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:45,920
coming in so let me grab this

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02:35:51,190 --> 02:35:49,040
and uh let me uh put i'm putting you on

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02:35:54,630 --> 02:35:51,200
hold you just stay right there you don't

3431
02:35:57,190 --> 02:35:54,640
go anywhere and let's see who did i have

3432
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:57,200
on hold we'll bring this call and you

3433
02:36:01,750 --> 02:35:59,920
were in first okay and i just posted

3434
02:36:03,670 --> 02:36:01,760
this up jimmy did you see the american

3435
02:36:06,070 --> 02:36:03,680
horror story season

3436
02:36:08,389 --> 02:36:06,080
last year where they did the uh

3437
02:36:09,990 --> 02:36:08,399
eisenhower edwards treaty narrative that

3438
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:10,000
was excellent

3439
02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:13,760
i um ryan murphy and

3440
02:36:17,110 --> 02:36:14,800
uh

3441
02:36:20,389 --> 02:36:17,120
the entire

3442
02:36:22,389 --> 02:36:20,399
american horror story series i am

3443
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:22,399
absolutely fascinated with

3444
02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:25,760
and and i watch it constantly

3445
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:26,640
and

3446
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:31,120
there is um that's not the only um

3447
02:36:34,870 --> 02:36:33,760
uh that's not the only

3448
02:36:37,270 --> 02:36:34,880
um

3449
02:36:38,630 --> 02:36:37,280
uh american horror story

3450
02:36:41,910 --> 02:36:38,640
that uh

3451
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:41,920
uh dealt with uh ufos i think it was

3452
02:36:49,270 --> 02:36:44,960
season two uh the asylum

3453
02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:49,280
that season starts off with um

3454
02:36:55,030 --> 02:36:51,680
uh hang on for a second

3455
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:55,040
okay what is going on who is on hold

3456
02:36:59,110 --> 02:36:56,880
okay that call

3457
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:59,120
okay don't don't hang up if you're on

3458
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:01,359
hold uh

3459
02:37:06,150 --> 02:37:02,880
don't hang up

3460
02:37:07,190 --> 02:37:06,160
don't do it

3461
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:07,200
um

3462
02:37:12,710 --> 02:37:10,960
that

3463
02:37:14,309 --> 02:37:12,720
if you haven't seen it okay i don't want

3464
02:37:15,750 --> 02:37:14,319
to give too much away but the the

3465
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:15,760
opening

3466
02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:18,960
i think it's episode one

3467
02:37:24,710 --> 02:37:21,280
we're talking alien abduction

3468
02:37:27,910 --> 02:37:26,469
man you need to go and watch that

3469
02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:27,920
because it

3470
02:37:30,950 --> 02:37:30,160
i don't want to give anything away

3471
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:30,960
but

3472
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:33,200
that that is uh

3473
02:37:36,309 --> 02:37:35,040
an alien abduction

3474
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:36,319
uh

3475
02:37:39,510 --> 02:37:37,520
hybrid

3476
02:37:41,910 --> 02:37:39,520
uh program

3477
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:41,920
uh with e.t that is going on watch

3478
02:37:47,429 --> 02:37:44,560
season two of american horror story

3479
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:47,439
season 10 the second half i think it was

3480
02:37:53,110 --> 02:37:50,160
the last five episodes i can't remember

3481
02:37:56,150 --> 02:37:53,120
um i've seen it a couple of times though

3482
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:56,160
last four or five episodes deals with

3483
02:38:01,750 --> 02:37:59,200
eisenhower and edwards air force base

3484
02:38:04,710 --> 02:38:01,760
and it's it's really well done too as

3485
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:04,720
well um i love american horror story i

3486
02:38:07,750 --> 02:38:05,520
can't

3487
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:07,760
i can i could

3488
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:08,960
literally

3489
02:38:13,990 --> 02:38:11,520
uh speak about american horror story

3490
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:14,000
every night on the air

3491
02:38:16,710 --> 02:38:15,760
for the rest of the year

3492
02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:16,720
um

3493
02:38:20,870 --> 02:38:19,040
i'm that impressed with it

3494
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:20,880
all right all right let's go to the

3495
02:38:25,830 --> 02:38:22,960
phones hi you're live on fade to black

3496
02:38:31,910 --> 02:38:28,550
hello yes you're live

3497
02:38:35,670 --> 02:38:31,920
how you doing jimmy the dirt road demon

3498
02:38:37,990 --> 02:38:35,680
from casco michigan love the show jimmy

3499
02:38:40,309 --> 02:38:38,000
and i love all your guitars back there

3500
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:40,319
oh thank you man thank you man do you

3501
02:38:44,630 --> 02:38:42,240
play

3502
02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:44,640
yeah here and there mainly bass though

3503
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:46,640
okay all right what kind of bass do you

3504
02:38:50,790 --> 02:38:49,600
have real quick i i got an old-school

3505
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:50,800
dinky

3506
02:38:55,270 --> 02:38:52,560
oh really

3507
02:38:56,870 --> 02:38:55,280
yeah okay short scale yeah yeah

3508
02:38:59,270 --> 02:38:56,880
nothing wrong with that nothing wrong

3509
02:39:02,630 --> 02:38:59,280
with that at all good for you man yeah

3510
02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:02,640
okay jimmy uh what was your name

3511
02:39:08,630 --> 02:39:06,240
derek derek what's on your mind tonight

3512
02:39:10,469 --> 02:39:08,640
not much just calling and uh

3513
02:39:12,870 --> 02:39:10,479
saying this great show i like it when

3514
02:39:15,910 --> 02:39:12,880
you got uh the old school

3515
02:39:17,510 --> 02:39:15,920
uh experts on you know that i'm used to

3516
02:39:19,270 --> 02:39:17,520
hearing i know a lot of people are used

3517
02:39:21,030 --> 02:39:19,280
to hearing over the years

3518
02:39:24,230 --> 02:39:21,040
like that used to be on the old coast to

3519
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:24,240
coast days so it's nice to to have the

3520
02:39:29,670 --> 02:39:27,040
the real experts on there at least in my

3521
02:39:31,349 --> 02:39:29,680
book yeah i agree with you derek and and

3522
02:39:33,590 --> 02:39:31,359
nick redfern and thank you for the phone

3523
02:39:37,429 --> 02:39:33,600
call i and nick redfearn is somebody

3524
02:39:39,349 --> 02:39:37,439
that uh i have followed for years and

3525
02:39:42,150 --> 02:39:39,359
i've got most of his books i probably

3526
02:39:45,270 --> 02:39:42,160
have 20 or 30 of them

3527
02:39:48,150 --> 02:39:45,280
um and he's just somebody that i respect

3528
02:39:50,950 --> 02:39:48,160
and he does a lot of research

3529
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:50,960
and and gets into these subjects plus

3530
02:39:55,030 --> 02:39:54,000
he's 100 rock and roll so there you go

3531
02:39:57,110 --> 02:39:55,040
derek

3532
02:39:59,429 --> 02:39:57,120
enjoy enjoy the rest of your night my

3533
02:40:00,630 --> 02:39:59,439
man thank you so much

3534
02:40:02,070 --> 02:40:00,640
thanks jimmy

3535
02:40:03,429 --> 02:40:02,080
it's a great phone call right there

3536
02:40:04,830 --> 02:40:03,439
thank you derek

3537
02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:04,840
and

3538
02:40:11,990 --> 02:40:07,760
uh he's right though

3539
02:40:13,190 --> 02:40:12,000
um sometimes uh i i go both ways uh with

3540
02:40:16,389 --> 02:40:13,200
all of this

3541
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:16,399
in that i love having first-time guests

3542
02:40:19,670 --> 02:40:17,680
on the show

3543
02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:19,680
that's great and that was one of the

3544
02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:21,840
things i enjoyed about coast to coast

3545
02:40:26,309 --> 02:40:24,640
and which i tried to do over at coast

3546
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:26,319
when i was there was having first-time

3547
02:40:30,950 --> 02:40:28,319
guests on because

3548
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,960
uh i would do that i would dial in uh to

3549
02:40:33,830 --> 02:40:32,160
coast

3550
02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:33,840
especially when it was a guest i had

3551
02:40:39,349 --> 02:40:37,600
never heard of but then again

3552
02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:39,359
i want to hear from stanton friedman i

3553
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:42,240
want to hear from uh linda moulton howe

3554
02:40:45,190 --> 02:40:44,399
i would enjoy

3555
02:40:51,750 --> 02:40:45,200
uh

3556
02:40:53,190 --> 02:40:51,760
we listened to over and over again for

3557
02:40:55,590 --> 02:40:53,200
their research

3558
02:40:58,230 --> 02:40:55,600
um so there is that part of it and i do

3559
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:58,240
the same thing here on on fade to black

3560
02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:00,960
but uh so having nick redfern on for me

3561
02:41:06,790 --> 02:41:03,680
is a treat like last week whitley and

3562
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:06,800
linda and and and dolan

3563
02:41:12,070 --> 02:41:09,359
all on the same week that that was a

3564
02:41:13,269 --> 02:41:12,080
great week for me to to be able to just

3565
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:13,279
sit down

3566
02:41:17,510 --> 02:41:14,560
with uh

3567
02:41:19,429 --> 02:41:17,520
these uh researchers that we have looked

3568
02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:19,439
up to over the years

3569
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:21,920
and and and and continue to have

3570
02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:25,040
excellent shows and and last week three

3571
02:41:30,389 --> 02:41:26,800
nights of

3572
02:41:32,950 --> 02:41:30,399
of the best of the best but totally

3573
02:41:34,790 --> 02:41:32,960
new information and new conversations

3574
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:34,800
uh i totally dig that let's go back to

3575
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:36,160
the phones hi you're live on fade to

3576
02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:46,230
you're live

3577
02:41:50,389 --> 02:41:48,230
turn me down in the background

3578
02:41:52,630 --> 02:41:50,399
turn me down right now

3579
02:41:54,150 --> 02:41:52,640
all right gotcha okay you're live who's

3580
02:41:56,469 --> 02:41:54,160
calling

3581
02:41:59,349 --> 02:41:56,479
this is steve from illinois hi steve how

3582
02:42:01,349 --> 02:41:59,359
are you tonight man what's on your mind

3583
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:01,359
well there there's a lot of things on my

3584
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:03,359
mind but one of the things i really

3585
02:42:08,309 --> 02:42:05,600
wanted to ask you jimmy is

3586
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:08,319
the origination of you know when you

3587
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:10,720
sign off and stuff i just have a really

3588
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:12,880
quick question is why do you say go back

3589
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:17,920
when tapping gobekli tepee is the oldest

3590
02:42:23,429 --> 02:42:21,600
megalithic site on planet earth it's 12

3591
02:42:25,990 --> 02:42:23,439
000 years old

3592
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:26,000
and it is in southern turkey on the

3593
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:27,840
syrian border

3594
02:42:33,670 --> 02:42:31,439
and it wasn't supposed to exist it is 7

3595
02:42:36,710 --> 02:42:33,680
000 years older

3596
02:42:39,830 --> 02:42:36,720
than giza than the great pyramids

3597
02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:39,840
and there wasn't supposed to be an older

3598
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:42,080
megalithic site like that anywhere in

3599
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:43,120
the world

3600
02:42:49,190 --> 02:42:46,319
let alone something 7 000 years older

3601
02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:49,200
than giza we don't know who built it we

3602
02:42:52,830 --> 02:42:51,120
don't know what it means

3603
02:42:55,110 --> 02:42:52,840
and it is

3604
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,120
stunningly beautiful

3605
02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:57,840
so you can look up go backly tepe and go

3606
02:43:02,070 --> 02:43:00,560
look at the site and it's incredible and

3607
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:02,080
we're finding more

3608
02:43:06,950 --> 02:43:05,359
about go beckley teppy uh every day it

3609
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:06,960
is uh

3610
02:43:11,429 --> 02:43:09,760
it's an anomaly uh in history it wasn't

3611
02:43:13,429 --> 02:43:11,439
supposed to exist and we don't know who

3612
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:13,439
built it

3613
02:43:17,910 --> 02:43:16,240
wow that that that that's exactly what i

3614
02:43:20,550 --> 02:43:17,920
was thinking because i i have done a

3615
02:43:23,190 --> 02:43:20,560
little research on it but i don't know

3616
02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:23,200
exactly you know what

3617
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:24,160
you know

3618
02:43:27,830 --> 02:43:25,920
it's all about but

3619
02:43:29,510 --> 02:43:27,840
i appreciate that jimmy thank you so

3620
02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:29,520
much yeah thank you steve and i

3621
02:43:33,830 --> 02:43:31,600
appreciate that and and

3622
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:33,840
uh go and do your research and and thank

3623
02:43:35,960 --> 02:43:35,200
you for the phone call

3624
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:35,970
and the

3625
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:37,279
[Music]

3626
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:39,200
go beckley teppy

3627
02:43:42,469 --> 02:43:41,600
i mean to me

3628
02:43:45,269 --> 02:43:42,479
um

3629
02:43:48,710 --> 02:43:45,279
when we think about

3630
02:43:50,870 --> 02:43:48,720
uh this planet and the history of things

3631
02:43:51,830 --> 02:43:50,880
go gobekli tepi

3632
02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:51,840
uh

3633
02:43:57,269 --> 02:43:55,600
you know at 10 000 bc if we listen to

3634
02:44:00,150 --> 02:43:57,279
historians

3635
02:44:01,910 --> 02:44:00,160
um that want to archaeologists and

3636
02:44:02,710 --> 02:44:01,920
anthropologists and they want to tell us

3637
02:44:05,830 --> 02:44:02,720
about

3638
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:05,840
what you know the facts of us

3639
02:44:10,469 --> 02:44:07,760
when clearly

3640
02:44:11,990 --> 02:44:10,479
they have been wrong

3641
02:44:12,870 --> 02:44:12,000
wrong

3642
02:44:17,750 --> 02:44:12,880
that

3643
02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:17,760
sense number one

3644
02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:21,040
to do relief carvings on on the pillars

3645
02:44:24,150 --> 02:44:23,279
that's that's the first thing the second

3646
02:44:27,670 --> 02:44:24,160
thing

3647
02:44:31,750 --> 02:44:27,680
is the engineering and the ability to

3648
02:44:34,630 --> 02:44:31,760
quarry stones and transport them

3649
02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:34,640
12 000 years ago like that

3650
02:44:39,590 --> 02:44:37,760
well that wasn't a

3651
02:44:42,230 --> 02:44:39,600
stone age man

3652
02:44:44,710 --> 02:44:42,240
wandering around in in animal skins we

3653
02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:44,720
already had that problem with giza at 3

3654
02:44:49,670 --> 02:44:46,720
3000 bc

3655
02:44:50,950 --> 02:44:49,680
the stone age there were no

3656
02:44:52,550 --> 02:44:50,960
uh

3657
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:52,560
tools

3658
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:54,960
you know and and and we had a hard time

3659
02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:58,240
uh digesting that and understanding that

3660
02:45:02,870 --> 02:45:01,760
and then you back up another 7 000 years

3661
02:45:05,190 --> 02:45:02,880
or more

3662
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:05,200
before giza and then there is there's

3663
02:45:09,990 --> 02:45:06,800
gobekli tepe

3664
02:45:12,070 --> 02:45:10,000
um absolutely stunningly beautiful and

3665
02:45:14,790 --> 02:45:12,080
we don't know its purpose and we don't

3666
02:45:17,429 --> 02:45:14,800
know who built it um it's absolutely

3667
02:45:19,830 --> 02:45:17,439
incredible so yes go back lee teppy and

3668
02:45:22,870 --> 02:45:19,840
that is the meaning behind it

3669
02:45:25,590 --> 02:45:22,880
uh i i'll never i'll never stop

3670
02:45:27,429 --> 02:45:25,600
with go back lee tappy let's uh go back

3671
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:27,439
to the phones hi you're live on fade to

3672
02:45:35,510 --> 02:45:33,349
hi jimmy yes

3673
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:35,520
oh you can hear me i wasn't sure if i

3674
02:45:38,950 --> 02:45:37,439
was just listening it's jessica

3675
02:45:41,670 --> 02:45:38,960
rodriguez

3676
02:45:44,230 --> 02:45:41,680
hi jessica how are you tonight

3677
02:45:47,830 --> 02:45:44,240
so speaking of go go beckley teppy have

3678
02:45:49,190 --> 02:45:47,840
you ever heard of cair uh carahan tubby

3679
02:45:51,429 --> 02:45:49,200
uh uh

3680
02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:51,439
yes of course

3681
02:45:55,750 --> 02:45:53,920
okay i just you always say go bucky

3682
02:45:59,110 --> 02:45:55,760
tempe and i always put at the end go

3683
02:46:01,990 --> 02:45:59,120
beckley tempe and karen hunts heavy or

3684
02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:02,000
teppy i'm sorry right right

3685
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:03,760
yeah and um

3686
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:06,319
go ahead you called me

3687
02:46:11,429 --> 02:46:09,040
well no i just i wanted to know what

3688
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:11,439
like what you know about it well because

3689
02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:14,479
you know everything about everything

3690
02:46:19,030 --> 02:46:17,040
yeah smoking mirrors jessica smoke and

3691
02:46:20,389 --> 02:46:19,040
mirrors but here's the thing

3692
02:46:21,269 --> 02:46:20,399
um

3693
02:46:25,110 --> 02:46:21,279
uh

3694
02:46:27,510 --> 02:46:25,120
gobekli teppy was originally discovered

3695
02:46:30,230 --> 02:46:27,520
uh by the farmer

3696
02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:30,240
there in in 1994.

3697
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,720
1995

3698
02:46:38,630 --> 02:46:35,279
when the archaeologist arrived there

3699
02:46:42,070 --> 02:46:38,640
that okay so that was 27 years ago

3700
02:46:44,150 --> 02:46:42,080
and as gobekli tepe was revealed to the

3701
02:46:46,870 --> 02:46:44,160
world and they did the carbon testing

3702
02:46:49,110 --> 02:46:46,880
and carbon dating and and then we we

3703
02:46:52,630 --> 02:46:49,120
find out that it's you know 12 000 years

3704
02:46:53,750 --> 02:46:52,640
old 10 000 bc at the end of the last ice

3705
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:53,760
age

3706
02:46:59,190 --> 02:46:56,240
that right there tipped over everything

3707
02:47:00,870 --> 02:46:59,200
that we knew about human history but i

3708
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:00,880
had said

3709
02:47:08,309 --> 02:47:05,200
and many others if gobekli tepi exists

3710
02:47:10,710 --> 02:47:08,319
how many other gobekli tepees

3711
02:47:11,990 --> 02:47:10,720
are on planet earth that have yet to be

3712
02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:12,000
discovered

3713
02:47:17,030 --> 02:47:13,040
and

3714
02:47:19,510 --> 02:47:17,040
haven't even discovered it could be

3715
02:47:21,670 --> 02:47:19,520
anywhere it could be in north america

3716
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:21,680
central america south america it could

3717
02:47:27,349 --> 02:47:25,120
be in asia it could be in uh in northern

3718
02:47:30,389 --> 02:47:27,359
asia it could be in china it could be in

3719
02:47:31,990 --> 02:47:30,399
uh in in northern europe

3720
02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:32,000
eastern europe southern europe it could

3721
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:34,160
be in italy

3722
02:47:37,269 --> 02:47:35,920
it could be anywhere

3723
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:37,279
but um

3724
02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:41,520
uh they have now found 12 more 11

3725
02:47:48,630 --> 02:47:45,359
gobekli tepe being one 12 more around go

3726
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:48,640
back lee tappy um and

3727
02:47:53,990 --> 02:47:50,880
i think that it is

3728
02:47:56,950 --> 02:47:54,000
uh it's going to continue this way

3729
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:56,960
it's just there there is is that is that

3730
02:48:04,870 --> 02:47:59,680
what they're calling um

3731
02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:06,150
yeah is that what they're calling that

3732
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:07,680
because i'm looking at pictures of it

3733
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:09,840
right now like it's like flashing by

3734
02:48:13,750 --> 02:48:11,920
different pictures and they had

3735
02:48:15,910 --> 02:48:13,760
all the holes in the ground i think it

3736
02:48:17,670 --> 02:48:15,920
was to like collect the water and then

3737
02:48:18,870 --> 02:48:17,680
there's like a statue it looks kind of

3738
02:48:19,750 --> 02:48:18,880
like a

3739
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:19,760
bear

3740
02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:20,880
lion

3741
02:48:25,990 --> 02:48:23,920
alien reptile type thing i don't know

3742
02:48:28,710 --> 02:48:26,000
what it is there's like it looks like

3743
02:48:31,670 --> 02:48:28,720
aliens like on the walls like carved in

3744
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:31,680
it it's like weird

3745
02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:34,960
yes and but it goes it goes beyond that

3746
02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:36,800
jessica there

3747
02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:41,439
if look up right now look up urfa man u

3748
02:48:46,469 --> 02:48:44,800
r f a urfa man

3749
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:46,479
yeah i've looked at it before okay

3750
02:48:50,230 --> 02:48:47,439
earphone

3751
02:48:54,230 --> 02:48:50,240
is an example of something that simply

3752
02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:54,240
should not exist if we listen to right

3753
02:48:58,469 --> 02:48:56,960
the academic that statue with the with

3754
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:58,479
the fingers

3755
02:49:01,590 --> 02:48:59,680
with the belt

3756
02:49:03,349 --> 02:49:01,600
yep yeah i know exactly what you're

3757
02:49:06,389 --> 02:49:03,359
talking about yeah i'm wearing some

3758
02:49:08,950 --> 02:49:06,399
pretty fancy clothing

3759
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:08,960
it looks like uh some

3760
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:09,840
uh

3761
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:11,840
interesting things below the belt going

3762
02:49:16,630 --> 02:49:13,760
on down there but i'm not sure if that's

3763
02:49:20,230 --> 02:49:16,640
what that actually is there's two

3764
02:49:22,309 --> 02:49:20,240
there is two of them yes

3765
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,319
yes yes

3766
02:49:27,510 --> 02:49:24,720
one they say they say there's one with a

3767
02:49:29,030 --> 02:49:27,520
loin cloth which i'm like

3768
02:49:30,070 --> 02:49:29,040
i don't know if that looks like a loin

3769
02:49:31,590 --> 02:49:30,080
cloth

3770
02:49:33,990 --> 02:49:31,600
or is that

3771
02:49:34,870 --> 02:49:34,000
him pulled in his

3772
02:49:37,670 --> 02:49:34,880
you know

3773
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:37,680
and and holding and hanging down you

3774
02:49:51,590 --> 02:49:49,269
those are simple examples of things that

3775
02:49:53,030 --> 02:49:51,600
really honestly shouldn't exist and

3776
02:49:55,830 --> 02:49:53,040
earth man right

3777
02:49:58,550 --> 02:49:55,840
irfaman is beautiful i mean that is one

3778
02:50:00,870 --> 02:49:58,560
of the most amazing sculptures ever in

3779
02:50:02,469 --> 02:50:00,880
the history of man and it's ten thousand

3780
02:50:04,790 --> 02:50:02,479
years old

3781
02:50:07,429 --> 02:50:04,800
ten thousand

3782
02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:07,439
that is that's crazy town so we are

3783
02:50:11,030 --> 02:50:09,040
going to continue

3784
02:50:14,389 --> 02:50:11,040
uh to find things now

3785
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:14,399
um you brought up uh karen tepe but

3786
02:50:19,670 --> 02:50:15,920
there's another

3787
02:50:21,830 --> 02:50:19,680
strange anomaly over in armenia called

3788
02:50:24,710 --> 02:50:21,840
cara hoonge

3789
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:24,720
which is stonehenge in armenian

3790
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:27,600
and that's another megalithic site that

3791
02:50:31,670 --> 02:50:29,600
uh has been ignored

3792
02:50:33,910 --> 02:50:31,680
and it's it's just

3793
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:33,920
keen stuff on that too yeah or read

3794
02:50:37,190 --> 02:50:35,200
stuff about it

3795
02:50:38,710 --> 02:50:37,200
watch because i watch documentaries all

3796
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:38,720
the time yes so

3797
02:50:43,510 --> 02:50:41,920
i know we cannot deny

3798
02:50:47,269 --> 02:50:43,520
that there were

3799
02:50:50,550 --> 02:50:47,279
advanced civilizations before

3800
02:50:51,429 --> 02:50:50,560
mesopotamia and before giza that's it

3801
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:51,439
there's

3802
02:50:57,269 --> 02:50:54,240
way too much evidence and we are

3803
02:50:58,070 --> 02:50:57,279
um and then all the annunaki tablets

3804
02:51:00,870 --> 02:50:58,080
like

3805
02:51:03,110 --> 02:51:00,880
they're telling the story right there of

3806
02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:03,120
human history and what happened

3807
02:51:07,910 --> 02:51:05,200
when it happened how long they lived the

3808
02:51:10,389 --> 02:51:07,920
kings list like you can't

3809
02:51:13,349 --> 02:51:10,399
say that all that stuff is

3810
02:51:15,269 --> 02:51:13,359
you know not true it's like they

3811
02:51:16,230 --> 02:51:15,279
carved it out of stone they did things

3812
02:51:19,429 --> 02:51:16,240
that

3813
02:51:22,790 --> 02:51:19,439
are inhumanly possible to us today

3814
02:51:24,630 --> 02:51:22,800
and look at all the structures in india

3815
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:24,640
i mean they're like

3816
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:27,359
it looks like a laser beam came down

3817
02:51:31,190 --> 02:51:29,040
into the mountain

3818
02:51:33,110 --> 02:51:31,200
you know all those church i forgot what

3819
02:51:34,309 --> 02:51:33,120
those churches are called oh my god they

3820
02:51:36,550 --> 02:51:34,319
start with a b

3821
02:51:38,950 --> 02:51:36,560
but there's like 12 of them and they're

3822
02:51:41,030 --> 02:51:38,960
literally squares in the ground and the

3823
02:51:42,710 --> 02:51:41,040
churches were just

3824
02:51:44,790 --> 02:51:42,720
you know i don't know if you know which

3825
02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:44,800
site i'm talking about in india

3826
02:51:48,710 --> 02:51:47,279
but the they're like um

3827
02:51:49,670 --> 02:51:48,720
crash shaped

3828
02:51:51,349 --> 02:51:49,680
i guess

3829
02:51:53,750 --> 02:51:51,359
and it's like a square

3830
02:51:54,950 --> 02:51:53,760
and it's built from a big huge

3831
02:51:57,110 --> 02:51:54,960
mountainside

3832
02:52:00,790 --> 02:51:57,120
you know big rock and they went from the

3833
02:52:02,230 --> 02:52:00,800
inside from the top down

3834
02:52:04,230 --> 02:52:02,240
that's how they built the religious

3835
02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:04,240
temples yes and they still go in them

3836
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:05,200
today

3837
02:52:11,269 --> 02:52:07,200
and some of them

3838
02:52:12,550 --> 02:52:11,279
are oh my god the artwork and the detail

3839
02:52:14,469 --> 02:52:12,560
in the stone

3840
02:52:17,349 --> 02:52:14,479
there's no way they did that with

3841
02:52:18,230 --> 02:52:17,359
chisels and copper things and stuff like

3842
02:52:18,950 --> 02:52:18,240
that

3843
02:52:21,590 --> 02:52:18,960
so

3844
02:52:25,110 --> 02:52:21,600
yeah we just have to get that yeah

3845
02:52:26,230 --> 02:52:25,120
jessica we just have to accept

3846
02:52:29,030 --> 02:52:26,240
that

3847
02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:29,040
this version of us wasn't the first

3848
02:52:34,790 --> 02:52:31,600
that's it right we have to accept that

3849
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:34,800
and and what is wrong with that

3850
02:52:38,230 --> 02:52:36,240
and

3851
02:52:41,349 --> 02:52:38,240
there isn't anything wrong with it it's

3852
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:41,359
the government hiding it from us but why

3853
02:52:45,030 --> 02:52:42,560
well why

3854
02:52:47,349 --> 02:52:45,040
why can they know when we can't well

3855
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:47,359
what's the big secret

3856
02:52:51,990 --> 02:52:49,120
you should start your own radio show

3857
02:52:55,190 --> 02:52:52,000
jessica you would you would do just fine

3858
02:52:56,550 --> 02:52:55,200
but uh and thank you for thank you thank

3859
02:53:03,590 --> 02:52:56,560
you

3860
02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:03,600
all right

3861
02:53:07,670 --> 02:53:05,600
talk to you soon fade to black go back

3862
02:53:08,870 --> 02:53:07,680
lee tappy that's jessica rodriguez thank

3863
02:53:10,630 --> 02:53:08,880
you jessica

3864
02:53:13,349 --> 02:53:10,640
and um

3865
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:13,359
and here's here's here's the best to

3866
02:53:19,269 --> 02:53:16,000
point with with all of that

3867
02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:19,279
and and please listen to my words

3868
02:53:27,269 --> 02:53:24,389
earth is 5 billion years old four and a

3869
02:53:31,510 --> 02:53:27,279
half billion years old okay

3870
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:31,520
and let's say stable version of earth

3871
02:53:37,349 --> 02:53:34,240
with a with a breathable thing and you

3872
02:53:39,670 --> 02:53:37,359
know uh the molten lava has ended that's

3873
02:53:40,550 --> 02:53:39,680
three billion years old

3874
02:53:47,830 --> 02:53:40,560
us

3875
02:53:50,469 --> 02:53:47,840
has allegedly uh been here for 150 000

3876
02:53:54,230 --> 02:53:50,479
years 200 000 years at the extreme

3877
02:53:56,630 --> 02:53:54,240
the smart version of us allegedly has

3878
02:53:59,429 --> 02:53:56,640
been around for about 10 000 years since

3879
02:54:00,710 --> 02:53:59,439
the last ice age and then we've only had

3880
02:54:03,349 --> 02:54:00,720
science

3881
02:54:05,269 --> 02:54:03,359
this version of us

3882
02:54:08,630 --> 02:54:05,279
for 300 years

3883
02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:08,640
all right now if we back up

3884
02:54:13,590 --> 02:54:10,960
that's i'm talking about three billion

3885
02:54:16,870 --> 02:54:13,600
years so three billion years the version

3886
02:54:19,030 --> 02:54:16,880
of us is like a thin layer of paint on

3887
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:19,040
the edge of this wall

3888
02:54:26,309 --> 02:54:22,720
right and if you take out a slice

3889
02:54:28,150 --> 02:54:26,319
as thick as this guitar pick

3890
02:54:30,309 --> 02:54:28,160
three billion years and you take out a

3891
02:54:32,870 --> 02:54:30,319
slice of human history

3892
02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:32,880
that would be a hundred thousand years

3893
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:34,479
two 200 000 years

3894
02:54:37,750 --> 02:54:36,640
that little slice

3895
02:54:43,910 --> 02:54:37,760
and

3896
02:54:46,550 --> 02:54:43,920
in anywhere in that three billion years

3897
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:46,560
that little slice

3898
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:49,120
nature would have taken it over

3899
02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:50,560
buried it

3900
02:54:57,830 --> 02:54:51,920
nature

3901
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:57,840
that it was ever here

3902
02:55:02,550 --> 02:55:00,560
if we ended tomorrow

3903
02:55:03,910 --> 02:55:02,560
right whatever happened

3904
02:55:05,590 --> 02:55:03,920
asteroid

3905
02:55:08,230 --> 02:55:05,600
some crazy thing

3906
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:08,240
you know whatever if we ended today

3907
02:55:14,830 --> 02:55:11,279
in a hundred thousand years

3908
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:14,840
what evidence would there be of

3909
02:55:19,670 --> 02:55:17,200
us what evidence

3910
02:55:22,790 --> 02:55:19,680
we'd have to go and search for it

3911
02:55:27,030 --> 02:55:22,800
but if you flew over and took a look

3912
02:55:30,389 --> 02:55:27,040
would you see new york city probably not

3913
02:55:31,190 --> 02:55:30,399
right and and that's that's the truth

3914
02:55:34,150 --> 02:55:31,200
so

3915
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:34,160
looking back in deep history and finding

3916
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:36,880
evidence of a previous civilization

3917
02:55:40,790 --> 02:55:39,520
certainly like gobekli tepe and that's

3918
02:55:43,510 --> 02:55:40,800
recent

3919
02:55:45,670 --> 02:55:43,520
what's wrong with having that discussion

3920
02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:45,680
the answer is nothing

3921
02:55:50,550 --> 02:55:46,800
nothing

3922
02:55:52,950 --> 02:55:50,560
and we we have no i you cannot stop life

3923
02:55:55,990 --> 02:55:52,960
on this planet you can't stop life it

3924
02:55:56,950 --> 02:55:56,000
starts and restarts and starts restarts

3925
02:55:59,190 --> 02:55:56,960
ends

3926
02:56:00,870 --> 02:55:59,200
constantly all the time

3927
02:56:02,070 --> 02:56:00,880
and and that's it

3928
02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:02,080
so

3929
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:04,240
what if that did happen

3930
02:56:07,269 --> 02:56:05,920
what's wrong with that discussion let's

3931
02:56:10,389 --> 02:56:07,279
go back to the phones how you're live on

3932
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:10,399
fade to black who's calling

3933
02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:11,520
charles

3934
02:56:17,030 --> 02:56:14,880
where are you calling from

3935
02:56:19,910 --> 02:56:17,040
i'm calling from uh madera right out of

3936
02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:19,920
the fresno california right off out of

3937
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:22,000
girth yep all right what's on your mind

3938
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:23,279
man

3939
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:25,200
oh well i want to tell you about an

3940
02:56:30,469 --> 02:56:28,000
encounter of some extraterrestrials i

3941
02:56:30,479 --> 02:56:35,190
can you do it in three minutes

3942
02:56:39,910 --> 02:56:37,670
i'll try to i'll just let you know this

3943
02:56:42,070 --> 02:56:39,920
something went wrong see i had a water

3944
02:56:45,269 --> 02:56:42,080
bed and it tripped them out they came in

3945
02:56:47,590 --> 02:56:45,279
my room and the door cracked open and a

3946
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:47,600
blue light came in and right when it hit

3947
02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:48,640
my wall

3948
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:51,120
it expanded across my whole room and it

3949
02:56:56,630 --> 02:56:53,359
pushed me down into the water bed

3950
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:56,640
right and and it didn't immobilize me i

3951
02:57:02,950 --> 02:57:00,479
was in waterbed i'm like freaking out

3952
02:57:06,870 --> 02:57:02,960
they come in and by the way these ones

3953
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:06,880
had like like a pinkish orangish skin

3954
02:57:10,550 --> 02:57:08,560
and they were looking at me and one of

3955
02:57:11,910 --> 02:57:10,560
them made a mad face because it's like

3956
02:57:13,750 --> 02:57:11,920
hey something's going wrong here he's

3957
02:57:17,910 --> 02:57:13,760
not immobilized

3958
02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:17,920
and um i remember every single bit of it

3959
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:19,279
how old were you

3960
02:57:27,830 --> 02:57:25,600
i still remember it to this day and um

3961
02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:27,840
you know uh

3962
02:57:33,429 --> 02:57:30,720
it was it was very it was really trippy

3963
02:57:36,230 --> 02:57:33,439
and then so i was actually able to to

3964
02:57:38,070 --> 02:57:36,240
squeeze it felt like like the ceiling

3965
02:57:39,190 --> 02:57:38,080
came down on me and pushed me into my

3966
02:57:41,510 --> 02:57:39,200
water bed

3967
02:57:43,110 --> 02:57:41,520
but i was actually able to squeeze out

3968
02:57:45,590 --> 02:57:43,120
from the side of it

3969
02:57:46,630 --> 02:57:45,600
and i hit the ground and then when i hit

3970
02:57:48,830 --> 02:57:46,640
the ground

3971
02:57:51,670 --> 02:57:48,840
it immobilized me and i went to

3972
02:57:53,429 --> 02:57:51,680
paralysis and it you know um i wish i

3973
02:57:55,670 --> 02:57:53,439
had more time to talk to you about it

3974
02:57:56,950 --> 02:57:55,680
but um you know i mean

3975
02:57:59,269 --> 02:57:56,960
it was

3976
02:58:00,230 --> 02:57:59,279
to this day you know i'm just so you

3977
02:58:01,990 --> 02:58:00,240
know

3978
02:58:03,990 --> 02:58:02,000
infatuated with everything with the

3979
02:58:06,710 --> 02:58:04,000
paranormal and stuff because i know it's

3980
02:58:08,630 --> 02:58:06,720
real yeah right on charles yeah right on

3981
02:58:11,269 --> 02:58:08,640
right on yeah that's pretty interesting

3982
02:58:12,150 --> 02:58:11,279
that water interfered with their ability

3983
02:58:13,510 --> 02:58:12,160
to

3984
02:58:15,670 --> 02:58:13,520
right and

3985
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:15,680
and and and freeze frame you but as soon

3986
02:58:19,830 --> 02:58:18,800
as you got uh off of the waterbed

3987
02:58:22,389 --> 02:58:19,840
then

3988
02:58:24,070 --> 02:58:22,399
their whatever they were using to

3989
02:58:27,030 --> 02:58:24,080
immobilize you

3990
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:27,040
uh went into full effect

3991
02:58:31,670 --> 02:58:29,359
yes sir and i and they didn't like my

3992
02:58:33,750 --> 02:58:31,680
memory i remember that part of it which

3993
02:58:36,230 --> 02:58:33,760
is very safe the rest of it i don't know

3994
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:36,240
i need to get uh hypnotized or something

3995
02:58:40,950 --> 02:58:37,120
right

3996
02:58:43,190 --> 02:58:40,960
at the end of the show but on thursday

3997
02:58:44,870 --> 02:58:43,200
night uh which is fader night

3998
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:44,880
call me back and we'll talk more about

3999
02:58:49,830 --> 02:58:47,760
it oh it'll be great i got more all

4000
02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:49,840
right thank you all right charles have a

4001
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:52,800
great night and uh what a great way to

4002
02:58:59,510 --> 02:58:57,120
end this show uh fantastic calls

4003
02:59:00,630 --> 02:58:59,520
and i want to thank nick redfern for

4004
02:59:03,190 --> 02:59:00,640
coming in

4005
02:59:05,190 --> 02:59:03,200
uh great great conversation with him

4006
02:59:08,550 --> 02:59:05,200
tonight and also i want to remind

4007
02:59:10,070 --> 02:59:08,560
everybody he's going to be back at uh

4008
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:10,080
the end of the month well at the end of

4009
02:59:14,710 --> 02:59:11,840
august we're not quite in august yet

4010
02:59:16,070 --> 02:59:14,720
today is the 26th but he'll be back on

4011
02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:16,080
september 1st and we're going to do a

4012
02:59:20,710 --> 02:59:17,600
big announcement

4013
02:59:22,070 --> 02:59:20,720
for the release of his new book what a

4014
02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:22,080
great show tonight i want to thank

4015
02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:24,880
everybody tomorrow night

4016
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:26,560
nick pope is here we're going to be

4017
02:59:32,150 --> 02:59:29,200
talking about government programs around

4018
02:59:34,469 --> 02:59:32,160
the world government ufo programs that

4019
02:59:37,269 --> 02:59:34,479
and so much more tomorrow night with

4020
02:59:39,030 --> 02:59:37,279
nick pope and uh before i get out of

4021
02:59:40,309 --> 02:59:39,040
here i want to

4022
02:59:42,630 --> 02:59:40,319
seriously

4023
02:59:43,590 --> 02:59:42,640
american horror story

4024
02:59:46,870 --> 02:59:43,600
um

4025
02:59:48,950 --> 02:59:46,880
it is now look it is not

4026
02:59:51,830 --> 02:59:48,960
for everybody

4027
02:59:54,630 --> 02:59:51,840
american horror story is freedom of

4028
02:59:56,469 --> 02:59:54,640
thought when it comes to writing

4029
02:59:58,870 --> 02:59:56,479
and ryan murphy

4030
03:00:01,910 --> 02:59:58,880
uh doesn't care

4031
03:00:05,110 --> 03:00:01,920
about being uh politically correct or

4032
03:00:08,830 --> 03:00:05,120
staying in the safe zone oh no

4033
03:00:12,230 --> 03:00:08,840
and uh season one is incredible season

4034
03:00:16,469 --> 03:00:12,240
two um i i went back to that it's called

4035
03:00:17,830 --> 03:00:16,479
the asylum because it is about e.t and

4036
03:00:20,309 --> 03:00:17,840
contact

4037
03:00:22,550 --> 03:00:20,319
and then what happens from there

4038
03:00:23,349 --> 03:00:22,560
um it is

4039
03:00:25,750 --> 03:00:23,359
uh

4040
03:00:27,830 --> 03:00:25,760
it is about as scary

4041
03:00:29,030 --> 03:00:27,840
of a nightmare that you can go through

4042
03:00:32,469 --> 03:00:29,040
and that's why it's called american

4043
03:00:36,550 --> 03:00:32,479
horror story um all of the seasons are

4044
03:00:40,710 --> 03:00:36,560
fantastic and are great and season 10

4045
03:00:43,910 --> 03:00:40,720
uh deals very directly with eisenhower

4046
03:00:46,150 --> 03:00:43,920
and edwards air force base and

4047
03:00:48,550 --> 03:00:46,160
i don't want to give any of it away

4048
03:00:52,230 --> 03:00:48,560
and uh e.t contact here on earth in the

4049
03:00:54,469 --> 03:00:52,240
treaty so yes american horror story go

4050
03:00:56,790 --> 03:00:54,479
and watch it i don't want to let it go

4051
03:00:59,429 --> 03:00:56,800
start with season one and cruise through

4052
03:01:01,590 --> 03:00:59,439
that thing it's absolutely incredible

4053
03:01:03,910 --> 03:01:01,600
this is fade to black i am your host

4054
03:01:05,269 --> 03:01:03,920
jimmy church again i want to thank nick

4055
03:01:07,590 --> 03:01:05,279
redfearn for

4056
03:01:10,469 --> 03:01:07,600
another great show and conversation

4057
03:01:12,630 --> 03:01:10,479
tonight tomorrow night nick pope is here

4058
03:01:14,550 --> 03:01:12,640
and then thursday night of course is

4059
03:01:15,670 --> 03:01:14,560
another fader night with open lines all

4060
03:01:17,670 --> 03:01:15,680
night long

4061
03:01:19,670 --> 03:01:17,680
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4062
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4063
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4064
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4065
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4066
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4067
03:01:33,910 --> 03:01:32,640
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4068
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4069
03:01:39,750 --> 03:01:38,319
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4070
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4073
03:01:47,030 --> 03:01:45,680
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4075
03:01:49,910 --> 03:01:48,640
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4076
03:01:52,230 --> 03:01:49,920
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4077
03:01:55,670 --> 03:01:52,240
until tomorrow night with nick pope

4078
03:01:58,300 --> 03:01:55,680
i want everybody to be safe

4079
03:02:05,390 --> 03:01:58,310
go back lee tappy